Just know their names... they are not just keys!

[adXok]

Guys,
better be quiet if you have a lack of argumentation.



They also can be called.
A B C D E F G H I J K L (concerning 12-ET = equal temeperament). I wrote once that also. So stick to the point. It is so simple indeed.

The piano keyborad is inconvinient. It has to be more symmetric. As suggested: there could be only two forms for every type of chord, scale, arrp... whatever. Or even ONE for each of them.

Just open your minds and look the big picture. It's about time.

[ZenPunkHippy]

They could be called Albert ... and sharp/flat renamed to short/tall.

Does your proposed system cater for tarnce? Which should only be written in the key of Phat Albert?

[Metanol]

This picture of an early piano proves it was really invented in Africa.

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[adXok]

Oh, c'mmon

Do not take it litteraly. Everybody knows why Natural Major is on the White keys (Black keys in Africa respectivly ). The color could be any if you'd like... I preffer grey or some lite brownish-grey like a hot chocolate with a lot of milk in it.

The only question I would like to hear answered from such a competent people like you is:

why only some of the keys (7) have to own their names nad the other (5) to be flated or sharped? Because of the sillables in 'Sancte Ioannes' coincidently or in purpose placed on the tones over the "white" keys (or africa-black as shown above )?

Not even every pianist thinks first of the white keys but then to see the sharped or flated ones when he is looking onto the score and sees a 'Bb 7 add13' chord in 2-nd inversion.

Natural major is not so important as a refference scale, especialy when the piano keyboard itself is inconvinient and such a pain in the butt compared to the Janko's conception as a starting point (een on his there is a trace of the common piano "discrimination").

Just for the protocl: I am white (bulgarian to be more precise), not black.

[yellowfever]

wtf is this thread all about? there's a new piano?!

[Metanol]

Oh, c'mmon
The only question I would like to hear answered from such a competent people like you is:

why only some of the keys (7) have to own their names nad the other (5) to be flated or sharped? Because of the sillables in 'Sancte Ioannes' coincidently or in purpose placed on the tones over the "white" keys (or africa-black as shown above )?

Its just historical reasons. Guys who invented notation we are using, were gregorian monks or something like that, and gave names to notes they actually used in their music.
After that some wild guys started to use also flat and sharp notes. (of course these were used in folk music and in other cultures, but some scales were considered even devilish) Notation was already born and no one bothered to make new way to write it.

[Shabdahbriah]

wtf is this thread all about? there's a new piano?!

It's about a new key naming "system" (convention) apparently well suited for tarnce (per; "ZenPunkHippy" observation), with odd and (IMO) ill conceived "racist" overtones (first post, linked dissertation).

Ignoring the pointless racism, the focus remains:

How utterly curious. They could be called Albert, Bernice, Colin, Delores, Edwin, Felicity and Graham, of course, and sharp/flat renamed to short/tall.

I'm holding out for one of the more random "12-tone" naming protocal options, whilst retaining a relationally banal "terrestrial" theme:

• Alvis
• Bovine
• Cleavage
• Delusive
• Eclosion
• Flatulent
• Gangrenous
• Hemorrhoid
• Inbred
• Juvenile
• Knobhopper
• Laparotomy

One can only hope...


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[adXok]

^ absolutely genious!
Better than mine suggestions... obviously.

Gee, I've been told here is full of competent people.

[yellowfever]

what a load of poo

[DeepFiber]

Wow what synth is this? Is this the new I-brik dongle?

[GW]

It's pure history. Everything begins with a concept about what we now call a major scale. As time went on, they filled in between and tempered all the notes to eqaul values so they could transpose without retuning. From that, people figured out new harmonies using the new relationships. Now we're left with a system that makes music way too complicated. I say that there are only two rules in western music:
1 - We recognise the octave; that a doubling of frequecy rate produces the same note, an octave up.
2 - We divide the octave into 12 equal steps.

Guitar player intuitively know this.

[adXok]

^... and give 12 names to them.
Why only 7? 12-ET = 12 names

# b and bekar - die in history