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Reflected · Post by **Reflected** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:47 am

Since it seems like the Sytrus won't get strong updates anymore, I'm looking for similar products...(obviously I'm looking for something at the same level or higher which also update constantly...)

any recommendations?

Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:50 am

Rhino

Reflected · Post by **Reflected** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:53 am

I've tried Rhino long time ago...maybe I will check it again to see if there are new updates...

EDIT: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/index.php?action=NEWS

What's new
29/05/2006 : Rhino 2.04 update
The long-awaited Rhino update is finally here. This version adds many more effects, dual morphing waveshapers in the filter section, improved performance, sound quality and usability enhancements.

more ?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:31 am

Reflected wrote:I've tried Rhino long time ago...maybe I will check it again to see if there are new updates...

EDIT: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/index.php?action=NEWS
What's new
29/05/2006 : Rhino 2.04 update
The long-awaited Rhino update is finally here. This version adds many more effects, dual morphing waveshapers in the filter section, improved performance, sound quality and usability enhancements.
more ?

I tried the Sytrus demo, and Cobalt is the an affordable commercial product that has
similar energies of sound, and some treasures in the soundsets. Rez 2 and Texture 1.2 from Ugo are -->very<-- affordable, also full of great sound. Have a great weekend with these synths

pikadilly · Post by **pikadilly** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:12 am

Why not ask Cockos to develope a synth for you majesty?

Reflected · Post by **Reflected** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:03 pm

pikadilly wrote:Why not ask Cockos to develope a synth for you majesty?

I prefer that cockos will keep the focus on Reaper and they do it very very well so far.

I look for a VSTi developer(s) that keep the focus on the synth and update it constantly just like updating a DAW...
the last thing that I want is that another dev who created a DAW will make a synth, sell it and leave it behind...

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:30 pm

Reflected wrote:Since it seems like the Sytrus won't get strong updates anymore, I'm looking for similar products...(obviously I'm looking for something at the same level or higher which also update constantly...)

any recommendations?

Say it like it is...
You're looking for a dev that you can nagg constantly about updates?
....tool.

-GeorgeZ

NB: Warning to devs, STAY AWAY!

Reflected · Post by **Reflected** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:32 pm

GeorgeZ wrote:.

I guess you don't have anything better to do other than searching people to fight with in forums?

next childish message from you = ignore.

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:37 pm

Kid? Tut tut my boy.... Reaper forum as well.

Fact of matter is, you do have some good ideas, and valid opinions, but then you have a cry if your suggestion isn't applied. That's when you loose most peoples attention/respect. (..and your validity).

No malice intended in this post, it's just how it is. If you get whiny, you get ignored.

-GeorgeZ

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:48 pm

Reflected wrote:I've tried Rhino long time ago...maybe I will check it again to see if there are new updates...

EDIT: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/index.php?action=NEWS
What's new
29/05/2006 : Rhino 2.04 update
The long-awaited Rhino update is finally here. This version adds many more effects, dual morphing waveshapers in the filter section, improved performance, sound quality and usability enhancements.
more ?

Rhino2 is perfectly executed as it is. Some of us have expressed a wish for a few new features, but to be honest they are frivolous. Rhino is probably one of the most mature and complex soft synths with zero bugs, in my experience. Why would you need an update ? For its own sake ? Get Rhino and be happy making music without worrying about any updates.

However, an update is coming. This should see Rhino roam the wild expanses of Mac's operating system.

datapark · Post by **datapark** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:21 am

Reflected wrote:
pikadilly wrote:Why not ask Cockos to develope a synth for you majesty?
I prefer that cockos will keep the focus on Reaper and they do it very very well so far.

I look for a VSTi developer(s) that keep the focus on the synth and update it constantly just like updating a DAW...
the last thing that I want is that another dev who created a DAW will make a synth, sell it and leave it behind...

Sytrus hasn't been left behind. Its finished and as far as I know bug free. As well, a lot of what was learned in Sytrus' development lead to Ogun and a few other upcoming projects.

What else do you need?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:25 am

datapark wrote:
Reflected wrote:
pikadilly wrote:Why not ask Cockos to develope a synth for you majesty?
I prefer that cockos will keep the focus on Reaper and they do it very very well so far.

I look for a VSTi developer(s) that keep the focus on the synth and update it constantly just like updating a DAW...
the last thing that I want is that another dev who created a DAW will make a synth, sell it and leave it behind...
Sytrus hasn't been left behind. Its finished and as far as I know bug free.

It has bugs in the preset loader but no-one has responded to my attempts to report this for months. The whole preset management system is poor anyway (esp if you don't have the Fruity version)

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:46 am

+1 I'll second the whole preset thing, esp. the downloader... that's nasty

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:01 am

aMUSEd wrote: The whole preset management system is poor anyway (esp if you don't have the Fruity version)

In contrast, I find Rhino's preset management brilliantly thought out.

There ought to be a standard developed for preset management for all soft synths. An online petition is in order, me thinks.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:47 am

himalaya wrote:
aMUSEd wrote: The whole preset management system is poor anyway (esp if you don't have the Fruity version)
In contrast, I find Rhino's preset management brilliantly thought out.

It's OK but I never use the library aspect - too much work (when you have hundreds of 3rd party presets) to drag everything over to categorise it when it really should be pre sorted but people making the presets.

Rhino sounds much nicer than Sytrus though and at least has a human sized gui instead of one designed for mice.

Something like FL sytrus?