Something like FL sytrus from line plug?

[Reflected]

I really like the way that you guys implementing user requests.

I'm looking for a vsti like FL sytrus, which will grow constantly...

if it will be modular it will be even better, so every now and then you will update new modules...

The problem with Sytrus is that they don't update it.. :/

hope to see something from your side.

cheers

[losan]

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I don't know about the FL version,
but the Sytrus VST has been updated a few times over the last months !

[djanthonyw]

Those pesky hardware developers take years to update their synths as well! How am I suppose to use something that's not updated every month!?

[Reflected]

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I don't know about the FL version,
but the Sytrus VST has been updated a few times over the last months !

really?
please tell me what the updates include?

me and few more users asked for few simple things and nothing happens...

it doesn't even allow to automate the shape of the OSC directly.

the default LFO env is ridiculous...

need to copy osc from one to another with all its settings, add filter types, add different OP.

panning conflicts between the osc and the filters.


there are many things, small and big issues that don't get any attention, because the dev is busy with many other products...

[losan]

Sorry, I'm not (and never been) that deep into Sytrus, but
if you're not satisfied with the development of Sytrus, I think you're maybe better off with directly contacting Image Line, when posting any wishes here on KVR (no offence here meant).

Cheers

[Xenox.AFL]

Well, if i remember right Sytrus is an FM Synth, isn't it?

Octopus is an FM, too with a lot of great features.you should take a look on it and listen to the demos...
http://www.linplug.com/Instruments/Octopus/octopus.htm

Frank

[tony tony chopper]

He's not really asking a question, he just likes to rant.

What he fails to realize is that plugins are very rarely developped for as long as a host, they have a much shorter livetime. Even just for the simple reason that it's hard to change anything to a plugin that's used in many projects, without breaking compatibility.
Sytrus was developped between 2003 & 2009, 6 years is huge for a plugin, but for some reason he thinks it's "bad support".

the default LFO env is ridiculous...

so you're looking for a synth with an LFO less ridiculous than unlimited LFO multipoint envelopes [that support 10 different break points, a loop zone, and can even be arpeggiated], with automated morphing between LFO shapes. Good luck.

[Reflected]

He's not really asking a question, he just likes to rant.

What he fails to realize is that plugins are very rarely developped for as long as a host, they have a much shorter livetime. Even just for the simple reason that it's hard to change anything to a plugin that's used in many projects, without breaking compatibility.
Sytrus was developped between 2003 & 2009, 6 years is huge for a plugin, but for some reason he thinks it's "bad support".

Hey dear Gol.
Right now I just wait for Reflex to add one of the most basic things in a synth to the VSTi version of sytrus - Legato mode.

other than this, I'm not gonna ask more features for Sytrus since you've gave me a good clue that it is hardly possible to improve sytrus because of compatibility and whatever other reasons..

there is something I think that you can learn from this point:
you have come to a level where your modules works extremely smooth, this is a good reason to create a modular synth, so those modules will live much longer without compatibility issues.

Large and few more, recommended that you will create Modular synth that will grow and get stronger day by day, instead of making another synth that gets old day by day and will be replaced in the near future with a similar synth.

I think this is a good call, you can do whatever you want with this...this is only a suggestion.
I'm not going to rant about it.

the default LFO env is ridiculous...

so you're looking for a synth with an LFO less ridiculous than unlimited LFO multipoint envelopes [that support 10 different break points, a loop zone, and can even be arpeggiated], with automated morphing between LFO shapes. Good luck.

the features are top notch...I know it, you know it, they all know it...this is one more reason to have it as a module in a modular synth.

Anyway I was talking about the default envelope settings.
I think that Dion and few more people also mentioned it in the IL forums...

not a big deal...but again, it says somethings...something like "we don't care about those small details, since this synth will be gone sometimes in the future anyway"

ps - I'm sry if it looks like a rant, I really don't have time to rant...
I look for a good replacement for sytrus because I like this product and I care about the future, if it will come from you it will be even better, since I really like the GUI of your products...that's all I can say.

[tony tony chopper]

Anyway I was talking about the default envelope settings.

Sytrus envelopes have no default, it's all from presets. If most, if not all presets have the same LFO loaded in all slots, it's because they're all children of the same mother preset, it's that simple. By default it's a triangle LFO with an attack, I don't even see any problem with that.
And if you can't be arsed to load another preset, I don't see why you're looking for a modular synth, really.

since this synth will be gone sometimes in the future anyway

Again, Sytrus is 6 years old, if you're looking for a synth that has more future than 6 years, good luck, I don't think it's common. And Sytrus is done, it doesn't mean it's dead, it means it's just born, now complete as it was designed to be. If it was still heavily developed you'd probably accuse us of having sold something unfinished..
Unless you would find it logical to buy a guitar and throw it because its development has stopped.

[Reflected]

nvm it...it always goes to the wrong direction in those conversatoins.

the main point is that I'm looking for something that will be able to replace sytrus and offer more.

hard to believe that there is such a thing these days, but maybe it will motivate some devs.

I'm very interested in a semi-modular synth with smooth GUI + high quality modules. (for reference I say that sytrus's modules is a good example for high quality modules)


all in all, I think that I do really good commercial to sytrus while I'm askig for something that will replace it...it means that I really like your work.

tho if there is one thing that I really don't like in your products is that u always put some limitations to save noobs from errors, like disabling automation for the waveform parameters.
you could put settings for those limitations...but you obviously have something against customizations.

[Peter from LinPlug]

We're not going to make anything like Sytrus, as Frank suggested you may look into Octopus for an FM synth.

[tony tony chopper]

tho if there is one thing that I really don't like in your products is that u always put some limitations to save noobs from errors, like disabling automation for the waveform parameters.

That's a lie, so stop saying "oh, and if I shit on your products it's because I love them".

And go take a look at Alchemy. I haven't tried it yet, but on the paper it looks like it gathered all possible features.

[Peter from LinPlug]

ehrm ... can all involved in this thread come back to earth please