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melophony · Post by **melophony** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:13 pm

timnl85 wrote:
melophony wrote:
standalone wrote:
Gucky wrote:Works Cantanya now with Cubase 5?
Huh? Catanya has been working fine since 5.01 here (now also in the newest 5.1.1). What exactly is not working for you?

When i load catanya in cubase 5.1.1, cubase freeze a first time

When i restart cubase, i've a lot of graphics bug (like empty windows) which make it unusable...

No response of 7aliens for the moment...

bluelife · Post by **bluelife** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:41 pm

They know about it and are working on it.
I had the same prob, it's in this thread somewhere,

cu

richard

kvrajim · Post by **kvrajim** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:56 pm

Chord recognition addon please! I'll pay hundreds for this feature!

Krovatin · Post by **Krovatin** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:16 pm

"Chord recognition addon please!" I think it is useless feature for majority of users.

Much more important - to get more musical result from Catanya, now it is quite robotic and primitive.

1. We need more retriggering setups - now it is just retrigger when new chord starts. If I do not want to restart pattern with new chord - I have no option.

Look at ClockWOrK Vintage Stepsequencer VST - there are 4 resets (5th is "off")

1. bar
2. 2 bar
3. key (like Catanya now)
4. Start only

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:18 am

Krovatin wrote:"Chord recognition addon please!" I think it is useless feature for majority of users.

I'm with you on that one. Especially when there are other more important requests and fixes that should be considered.

Krovatin wrote:1. We need more retriggering setups - now it is just retrigger when new chord starts. If I do not want to restart pattern with new chord - I have no option.

This is extremely important in any plugin of this type. With out multiple trigger options, Catanya is virtually garbage, unless every chord you play is the same length as the pattern length every single time. The funny thing is that it seems that none of this will ever be addressed. In my opinion 7Aliens is not a solid developer because of the lack of comunication about any development process, feature requests, or updates. Shit, they never even bothered to write an actual user manual for Catanya even after some paying users have requested it. It just seems as if though they can give a crap about any of this. Glad I didn't waste any money on this "fad" plugin.

.-.

kvrajim · Post by **kvrajim** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:15 pm

hmm you guys don't think chord recognition is important but you use chords.. do you plan on layering the arp?

it seems to me that the development of catanya is too slow anyways.. i don't think it's worthwhile to purchase such a software and someone else should develop this software.. the market is there.. but the company is too slow..

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:49 pm

kvrajim wrote:hmm you guys don't think chord recognition is important but you use chords..

Don't get me wrong, it's not that it's not important, it's just that there are other major things that need attention.

kvrajim wrote:it seems to me that the development of catanya is too slow anyways.. i don't think it's worthwhile to purchase such a software and someone else should develop this software .. the market is there.. but the company is too slow..

+ 1000

.-.

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:27 am

Geez, so quick to jump on the devs. I should be glad I'm not a developer (anymore).

Anyways, chord rec. would be nice as an inverse function, but the advantage here (so far as an early revision of the product) is that it takes you out of your preconceived patterns and sparks some creativity. I already know how to play chords, and I know theory, but I like being able to just hit a preview button of some otherwise unrealized chord or pattern which takes me in some other direction.

If you want chord rec., (or something close to it), just plug Harmony Improvisator (or some similar) in front of Catanya, and you'll get some interesting results.

Greg

trewq · Post by **trewq** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:32 am

siriusbliss wrote:Geez, so quick to jump on the devs. I should be glad I'm not a developer (anymore).

+1000

Thats why I'm so hesitant about posting my shiit here, since people look for opinions before downloading, and mine's been run into the ground before(tho they couldn't fault what it currently had). But its been too absorbing for me to ever quit.

Chord processing can take a lot of time though, since you have to build a chord database, work out the math, create a useable envoronment, excetera… They prob have most of that in place already, for all I know. But it involves more problems than non-devs can even begin to imagine! So devs really have to have their heart into it, with some moral support. I know I do at least!

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:54 am

The thing is - when you launch a product as a small developer, you also enter a community, like it or not, and you'd better play by the unwritten but rather natural rules of that community.

The first rule is to maintain a presence. I'd say the second rule is to communicate. And the third one is to do it in a nice way - in other words to project an image to the customer community.

Witness, for example, the huge success of Zebra 2 and ACE. Granted, they are two superb synths. But I suspect that the active and affable presence of Urs here on KVR has had quite a part in that success.

Same thing with Terry West, Soniccouture, Orange Tree, Camel Audio and many others.

I know that I'd much rather buy a synth or effect from a likeable guy who appears to listen and provides feedback, than one whose attitude is 'take it or leave it'.

/Joachim

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:58 am

siriusbliss wrote:Geez, so quick to jump on the devs. I should be glad I'm not a developer (anymore).

Anyways, chord rec. would be nice as an inverse function, but the advantage here (so far as an early revision of the product) is that it takes you out of your preconceived patterns and sparks some creativity. I already know how to play chords, and I know theory, but I like being able to just hit a preview button of some otherwise unrealized chord or pattern which takes me in some other direction.

If you want chord rec., (or something close to it), just plug Harmony Improvisator (or some similar) in front of Catanya, and you'll get some interesting results.

Greg

+1

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:47 am

Spitfire31 wrote:The first rule is to maintain a presence. I'd say the second rule is to communicate. And the third one is to do it in a nice way - in other words to project an image to the customer community.

Witness, for example, the huge success of Zebra 2 and ACE. Granted, they are two superb synths. But I suspect that the active and affable presence of Urs here on KVR has had quite a part in that success.

Same thing with Terry West, Soniccouture, Orange Tree, Camel Audio and many others.

I know that I'd much rather buy a synth or effect from a likeable guy who appears to listen and provides feedback, than one whose attitude is 'take it or leave it'.

+1

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:49 am

siriusbliss wrote:Geez, so quick to jump on the devs. I should be glad I'm not a developer (anymore)

But where is the developer? He hasn't posted here since Sep 29.

standalone · Post by **standalone** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:53 am

firepile wrote:
siriusbliss wrote:Geez, so quick to jump on the devs. I should be glad I'm not a developer (anymore)
But where is the developer? He hasn't posted here since Sep 29.

And Charlie Steinberg neither. I don't think posting in KvR is obligatory any more.

rectus_dominus · Post by **rectus_dominus** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:26 pm

They are working on this aren't they

7Aliens Catanya - Music Phrase Arpeggiator