GROUP BUY: Ocean Way & Drum Masters Ultimate Studio Drum Bundle!

[DarkStar]

New Page News:
Please don't post "I haven't got my "X" yet. What should I do?"
The answer is the same: email support or directly to allen:
allen <<at>> esoundz <<dot>> com

If you find an issue that you think others may have too or know the solution, post it in this thread:
Drum Masters & OWD Community Support Thread

Look through the Vital Info thread too:
Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy VITAL INFO THREAD

[Reverend Rhythm]

Phase 2 will likely be Thursday and Phase 1 either Friday or Monday (or in between). So far it is looking good with the server and downloads. That's good. Ironing out a few kinks with the graphics and minor settings. We'll do a patch update for any of those little things that were found (so far just Kit 1, Kit 2, Kit 8 and Kit 13 had little things to change, not show stopper stuff just graphics and settings - most of which COULD be done by you guys but we'll do that stuff so it is more consistent and then give everyone an easy patch update).

One good thing about our custom library installer is that it does do easy patch updates.

Should we put this in the Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy VITAL INFO THREAD.

And just to clarify, didn't you mean "Phase 3 either Friday or Monday (or in between)"?

[yarimurray]

Did I miss anyone's question they are anxious for me to answer? I lost track of this thread and even though I am busy doing three other things I am checking in at the latest page so if you want to copy it and put it in here or in the community support thread I will try to answer.

Thanks

You never responded to my request for an introduction to the 7 Aliens redhead so I can have her children.

To be fair that request was made at around 2:00 AM your time so I completely understand.

Michael

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Did I miss anyone's question they are anxious for me to answer? I lost track of this thread and even though I am busy doing three other things I am checking in at the latest page so if you want to copy it and put it in here or in the community support thread I will try to answer.

Thanks

You never responded to my request for an introduction to the 7 Aliens redhead so I can have her children.

To be fair that request was made at around 2:00 AM your time so I completely understand.

Michael

yeah....and where's my pizza ???

[Squids]

Phase 2 will likely be Thursday and Phase 1 either Friday or Monday (or in between). So far it is looking good with the server and downloads. That's good. Ironing out a few kinks with the graphics and minor settings. We'll do a patch update for any of those little things that were found (so far just Kit 1, Kit 2, Kit 8 and Kit 13 had little things to change, not show stopper stuff just graphics and settings - most of which COULD be done by you guys but we'll do that stuff so it is more consistent and then give everyone an easy patch update).

One good thing about our custom library installer is that it does do easy patch updates.

Should we put this in the Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy VITAL INFO THREAD.

And just to clarify, didn't you mean "Phase 3 either Friday or Monday (or in between)"?

Yes, phase 3... I have had gas in my brain a few times... neuron overload! Sure put it in there. That'd be great. Thanks!

[zedd]

In response to those who mentioned the kick drums being too boomy or the snare drums being too loose, you can easily change either of those things without switching kit pieces...

Just use the pull down menu on the GUI for the kit piece you want to modify and you will see a bunch of options including Envelope and FX. You can adjust decays and attacks, etc., with the envelope settings, and in the FX section you can apply EQ, compression and limiting.

With only a few quick seconds of tweeking I was able to take the boom of kicks, and make ambient snares sound like the most awesome close-miced tight snares. There is really a lot you can do with the kit pieces without leaving the front of the interface.

And if you have the full version of Kontakt, you can do further tweeks, like adjusting the volume of particular articulations of a kit piece, (e.g. raising and lowering their volumes, or tuning them separately).

I have a new favorite snare sound... and I've only just started manipulating the controls.

[eDrummist]

It seems like there is enough of us in the GB that it might even make sense to have our own Forum or sub Forum just for those in this GB where we can exchange presets, tips/knowledge sharing, etc.

I'm not sure what kind of reaction that idea will get, but I just wanted to float it out there. I mean, as we can see, this thread is huge and as we have a ton of info and there are other child threads, it is becoming a lot more work to locate or manage relevant info -- a problem our own forum could help resolve. I mean, I play keys, but I also play Roland V-Drums and we could easily have a bunch of threads for just V-Drums users (FTR, I am well aware of the VDrums.com forum, but it does not seems as seafood friendly -- oops, I mean cephalopods friendly -- as KVR. Sorry, but I can't deny that I love calamari.)

[zedd]

can't talk about slate drums, though from audio demos they are absolutely the opposite of what i'm looking for

That's another thing we can agree on, ebow!

[Chester Desmond]

Hi Squids, I see that one of the bonus MT kits is the NDV Premiere. Can you please confirm that it does indeed come with the timbales and roto-toms as shown here:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=2404

if not, do any of the kits in this GB have them?

Also wondering if those funky TAOS drums are\will ever be available as a kit.. they appear to be a groove product only so far?
I did ask this once before many pages ago so I apologize if I missed your response..

Thanks

[blueman]

can't talk about slate drums, though from audio demos they are absolutely the opposite of what i'm looking for

That's another thing we can agree on, ebow!

+3

I don't get the big hype on SS drums but I may just buy them anyway because I'm funny like that

[maximilians1]

In response to those who mentioned the kick drums being too boomy or the snare drums being too loose, you can easily change either of those things without switching kit pieces...

Just use the pull down menu on the GUI for the kit piece you want to modify and you will see a bunch of options including Envelope and FX. You can adjust decays and attacks, etc., with the envelope settings, and in the FX section you can apply EQ, compression and limiting.

With only a few quick seconds of tweeking I was able to take the boom of kicks, and make ambient snares sound like the most awesome close-miced tight snares. There is really a lot you can do with the kit pieces without leaving the front of the interface.

And if you have the full version of Kontakt, you can do further tweeks, like adjusting the volume of particular articulations of a kit piece, (e.g. raising and lowering their volumes, or tuning them separately).

I have a new favorite snare sound... and I've only just started manipulating the controls.

nice tip I was adjusting the release on the snare and kick of kit 6 amb and got and very interesting results . I also noticed you can you that same trick to increase the releases on dry kit 8 for more snare buzz ...kontakt is kool

[autodafe]

In response to those who mentioned the kick drums being too boomy

Hi guys,
when I said that some of the kick are a bit too "boomy", I was not saying that they are bad (they sound very nice indeed), it's just my taste, I prefer "thick" kick drums, shorter, without much decay. Also, as I said, it was just a very quick test on some of the kits, not even all of them.
I guess I was referring in particular to Kit 2 and 5...
I know that each kit piece can be swapped or edited (I have Kontakt full) and will try to do so today.
On the other side, some toms are really "deep", sustained, and with quite a long dacay, which is a feature I like a lot...

I am not complaining of course, it was just my personal taste.

[zedd]

when I said that some of the kick are a bit too "boomy", I was not saying that they are bad (they sound very nice indeed), it's just my taste, I prefer "thick" kick drums, shorter, without much decay.

I didn't take your comments as complaints... in fact I completely agree that the default kick sound in some of the kits is a little "boomy" (for lack of a better word). But I was delighted to discover how easy it is to customize any of those kicks to become the kind of kicks that I do like and would use. Same with the snares.

We have a lot of great stuff to work with here! And I also agree with maximilians1 that Kontakt is Kool! I would encourage EVERYONE to get the full version of Kontakt. The features it has for editing sampled instruments, and building or customizing your own instruments are just awesome.

[Squids]

Hi Squids, I see that one of the bonus MT kits is the NDV Premiere. Can you please confirm that it does indeed come with the timbales and roto-toms as shown here:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=2404

if not, do any of the kits in this GB have them?

Also wondering if those funky TAOS drums are\will ever be available as a kit.. they appear to be a groove product only so far?
I did ask this once before many pages ago so I apologize if I missed your response..

Thanks

I dreamt that you had asked that and I hadn't answered... I guess it WAS real! Haha.

The TAOS kit IS being released! It sounds UNNNNNNNNNbelievable!!!!!!!! It is very different than your usual kit though. But WOW is it good. The bass drum is over 40 inches or something like that. Calf skin. Ridiculously huge. That will be in the new Drum Masters 2 Platinum and Platinum Kits Only (that replaces the Complete Kits Collection). It will also be available in a Deluxe Drummer Pack with just Jerry.

The NDV Premier kit in the GB does NOT have the timbales and rotos. But they ARE in the Drum Masters Signature Kits Vol. 1 They're also in the Deluxe Nick D'Virgilio Drummer Pack (replaces the Complete Nick D'Virgilio title we have now).

Pretty soon you'll start seeing the old Drum Masters 1 stuff go away (last chance to get some of that stuff and remember the DM2 upgrade patches for them ARE free) and the refreshed new (and different) Drum Masters 2 line replacing it. I'll give you some info on that. Here's what is replacing it. Imagine ALL of it is going away and there will only be:

Drum Masters 2 (main title) Multitrack Kits & Grooves

Drum Masters 2 Platinum - Now has all of the Artists and Style Multitrack Kits & Grooves to date

Drum Masters 2 Platinum "Kits Only" - same as above but without the audio grooves... for people who just want playable discrete multitrack kits galore.

Then there's the Signature Kit Series:

DM2 Signature Kits Vol. 1 - Focuses on "kits only" STm (Stereo Kit Pieces/Multichannel Mixing) of mainly artist kits (the kits that used to come with DM1 Silver)

DM2 Signature Kits Vol. 2 - A mix or artist and style kits with mostly previously unreleased STm "kits only" (apart from some in this group buy). It includes samples of signature kit brands that have artists like Stewart Copeland, Dennis Chambers, Dave Weckl... and it has Octobons!

Those are the only two about to be announced but following those will be Signature Percussion, Snares, Kick and Toms, Hats, Cymbals... huge collections of very rare instruments including Danny Gottlieb's rare cymbal collection with famous Jazz cymbals owned by Joe Morello (the ride used on Brubeck's Take 5), Don Lemond, Mel Lewis (including one vintage ride that makes you sneeze when you take it out but sounds amazing) and many more samples that have never been released before.

Then there's the Drummer Packs:

Bill Bruford (King Crimson, Yes)
Steve Gadd (Steely Dan, Paul Simon)
*Jerry Marotta (Peter Gabriel)
*Danny Gottlieb (Pat Metheny Group)
*John Blackwell (Prince, Patti Labelle)
*Ed Greene (Donald Fagen, Barry White)
*Nick D'Virgilio (TFF, Spock's Beard)

All of the above will have STm kits and grooves (if you want just the kits then get Signature Kits Vol. 1 which has them compiled). The grooves will be both for Infinite Player AND in Rex, Apple Loops & Wave format for you as well at no extra charge (the R.A.W. version will now come FREE with the pack... nice deal there).

The ones with * will also have a Deluxe Multitrack & STm versions (sort of like a "complete" of that drummer's material)

Then there's Producer Series titles like EpiK DrumS - A Ken Scott Collection (Beatles, Bowie, Floyd, Supertramp, Elton John...", Neil Peart Drums with Nick Raskulinecz (producer of Foo Fighters, Rush, Alice In Chains), Hugh Padgham Collection (Genesis, Phil Collins, The Police, Sting), Nick Davis The Farm Sessions (which not only has drums but samples of Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford's vintage keyboards and double neck guitars, basses, fx... can you tell I like Genesis? ) and then there's more stuff in the style of Ringo, Nick Mason of Pink Floyd and all the iconic drum sounds you could ever want really. Even some really unusual stuff like this: www.moleculesdrums.com We really mean it when we say we "Sample Everything".

ALL of the above will work with your SAME Infinite Player and Kontakt or Kontakt Player 3.5 or 4! At THAT point you can just buy them on line, on DVD or on the new Infinite hard drive coming out and you don't have to jump through any more hoops. Drag and drop install and you load them up and PLAY! Then the STm kit pieces all swap out with other STm kits, the MT kit pieces with discrete mic mixing all swap out with other MT kit pieces between everything. If someone had it all they could make ENDLESS hybrid kits putting together Copeland-like Octobans with HUGE Supertramp-style floor toms and a Bozzio snare with a Bonham-style kick and vintage Jazz ride cymbals. Is this going to be fun or what? I personally can't wait until it is all out. I don't want to say when because ummmm my predictions are notoriously off. Ehem (sorry) but it's getting very close. Some of this has been worked on since 2004 so... I think we're ready now!

I'll go ahead and post this in the vital info thread since you finally get the skinny on the upcoming Drum Masters 2 titles.

Oh, individual kits and grooves may still be available for DM2 only on www.downloadablesoundz.com (no longer on esoundz after release). Not every kit and groove in the series but a nice selection for those that JUST want a cool kit or set of grooves.

Whew! 3 am inspiration.

[maximilians1]

Hi Squids, I see that one of the bonus MT kits is the NDV Premiere. Can you please confirm that it does indeed come with the timbales and roto-toms as shown here:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=2404

if not, do any of the kits in this GB have them?



Thanks

The NDV Premier kit in the GB does NOT have the timbales and rotos. But they ARE in the Drum Masters Signature Kits Vol. 1 They're also in the Deluxe Nick D'Virgilio Drummer Pack (replaces the Complete Nick D'Virgilio title we have now).

correct me if I'm wrong but can't chester or me pick the the ndv premiere multitrack kit as one of our optiosn to get these timbales and rototoms?