Is 2C's Aether REALLY worth it? (the answer is: yes, certainly)

[Crandall1]

I agree with that statement; however, the little touches build up in to a generally "pro" sheen if you apply enough of them. One or two won't be enough in the grand scheme to make any difference, be it a photo or a song.

[ozmoz2008]

I agree with that statement; however, the little touches build up in to a generally "pro" sheen if you apply enough of them. One or two won't be enough in the grand scheme to make any difference, be it a photo or a song.

The big picture is made of small pixels, the details add up and make a "big" picture. The details I might focus on at a very particular moment are probably not as important as the big picture, but they are part of it. You can't really dissociate them at the end, maybe when you try to describe them, but the end results are what counts.

The effort put into details is never lost at the end, because it's part of the results.

@ jimvictor - The way you extract the quote looks like an orgy...lol...But it was two things, the choir and the people who listen to it. The "they" was about the listeners and not the choir, of course!

The "Bedroom" is use as an example of a room size ambience.(just in case you didn't understand)

Good one though!

[metrosonic]

First classic KVR thread of 2010. Congrats one and all.

I love it when you get a bunch of developers and knowledgeable folk dissected a subject like this. Love it even more when I come away from it all feeling more informed!


JM
http://leftside-wobble.blogspot.com/

[jimvictor]

It was of course an attempt at Humor!

didn't mean to cause any consternation....

[mixsit]

BTW, we have added a separate pre-delay for the ERs in 1.5.0. This allows some interesting things.

Dammit, stop teasing us!!!

Also we have added a Freq Profile menu in 1.5.0. This is a menu system like the Space Menu, where you can switch through different profiles in various ways and quickly change the freq controls as sort of macro setting. This is quite nice. We had this in mind since the beginning, but have finally done it now.

No do!

So far I've mostly played with Aether to build 'natural backdrops (for close mic acoustic/electric live tracks for example) vs some of the more traditional Lex' tools. Partly to get in and get used to the thing, but partly it struck me as that kind of tool.

Maybe we will make a "Classic" preset folder the specifically leans towards low HF content presets?

..But if Aether & Co. likes to come along with some 'Classics' emulation starter kits...

Another cool thing to try to use the Input EQ and the decay ratio is opposition to one another. So you may actually cut the HFs with EQ, but increase the decay, or vice versa. This can give interesting results.

Not that I have sussed it out all that clearly or anything, I've always felt a difference worth considering between 'eqing the source vs the returns.

Carry on.

[klagga]

...you may want to try reducing the modulation depth and/or increasing the modulation period significantly. Large amounts of modulation can result in a "chorusing" and "detuning" effect.

I own Aether and to be honest I find it a bit hard to get around and understand, even while reading the manual.

Would it be possible for Galbanum (or somebody else) to make a video tutorial on how to really make the best use of it?

[Andrew Souter]

We will consider making a video at some point. Good idea.

We are also vastly improving the manual. The manual now was in two pieces: the more detailed, but not complete PDF, and the far less detailed but feature-complete text file. We will merge both into the PDF and offer more details.

Question though: how does everyone feel about on-line manuals? Do you consider this an acceptable alternative to PDF?

I'm thinking it may be easier for us to maintain and improve the manual if we do an online format such as Camel Audio has done for Alchemy: http://www.camelaudio.com/alchemymanual/ This way the manual can be a living thing and we can make changes and additions to it easily as needed.

Thoughts?

[Echoes in the Attic]

Question though: how does everyone feel about on-line manuals? Do you consider this an acceptable alternative to PDF?

I'm thinking it may be easier for us to maintain and improve the manual if we do an online format such as Camel Audio has done for Alchemy: http://www.camelaudio.com/alchemymanual/ This way the manual can be a living thing and we can make changes and additions to it easily as needed.

Thoughts?

I think it's a good idea. But like Camel and u-he who do that, you should also have a downloadable PDF version in it's current state for people who want to read it off-line.

[eduardo_b]

Question though: how does everyone feel about on-line manuals? Do you consider this an acceptable alternative to PDF?

I'm thinking it may be easier for us to maintain and improve the manual if we do an online format such as Camel Audio has done for Alchemy: http://www.camelaudio.com/alchemymanual/ This way the manual can be a living thing and we can make changes and additions to it easily as needed.

Thoughts?

While I agree that online manuals can be updated easily, there are benefits to PDF versions, one being that it doesn't require an online connection to access and another being that it can be printed out and available to thumb through as needed.

[elxsound]

Question though: how does everyone feel about on-line manuals? Do you consider this an acceptable alternative to PDF?

I'm thinking it may be easier for us to maintain and improve the manual if we do an online format such as Camel Audio has done for Alchemy: http://www.camelaudio.com/alchemymanual/ This way the manual can be a living thing and we can make changes and additions to it easily as needed.

Thoughts?

While I agree that online manuals can be updated easily, there are benefits to PDF versions, one being that it doesn't require an online connection to access and another being that it can be printed out and available to thumb through as needed.

And then there's the Fabfilter compromise (both pdf manual and "online help" are offered for each product): http://www.fabfilter.com/help/pro-q/index.html

[mixsit]

I definitely like to keep manuals for the deeper stuff close at hand, as in pdf. on the desk top and in some cases open in the DAW I'm working in (which is also not connected to the web.

[xh3rv]

Thoughts?

The manuals that seem clearest to me are the ones that fairly strictly describe things knob-per-knob, a lot of negative space typographically. I do feel like the phase meter and envelope diagrams in the current manual are awesome, but ... I feel like Scientific American would simplify those, maybe spread them out a bit, if that makes sense.

A single PDF file that can be tossed in a 'manuals' folder or printed feels much more convenient to me than even a well-done online/HTML thing. Having a fairly obvious click path to opening the manual from the app is nice as well.

[rectus_dominus]

An easily printable manual worths a lot, I think. It's good to have a printed lil'book in front of me when discovering something new.
So in my opinion the pdf means more than an online manual, though the ideal is having both.

[ariston]

Thoughts?

I like both; it's nice to have some immediate contextual help while working, but I also love to browse through manuals whilst sitting on the potty.

Seriously, I don't think an online manual should ever replace a printable version. I would also assume that it's not often necessary to do updates to both of these.

[jensa]

I prefer having a PDF manual stored somewhere in my iPod Touch.