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susiwong wrote:Agreed, that would be useful.
There is a handy tool however as a workaround, Stereo Tools.
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Intuitive, free and quite powerful. Shows up a few times in all of my projects.
Thanks! I've seen this plug before. Dunno why I didn't think of using it. This is much better than sending a panned mono channel to a group.
I still hope AmpliTube 3 gives us a more artful way of doing it without outside help.

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I just go to vst connections/F4, go to "mono 6" or whatever and then choose the correct input on a stereo track. I don't get any problems with too much summing or distortion or anything like that.

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hibidy wrote:I just go to vst connections/F4, go to "mono 6" or whatever and then choose the correct input on a stereo track. I don't get any problems with too much summing or distortion or anything like that.
But have you compared summed mono to one-sided stereo in AmpliTube? Use a model like the AC30 or JHE Marshall S100 (which are both very sensitive to input level) and see how they are affected. Try sticking the Stereo Tools VST that susiwong linked to in front of X-GEAR and A/B it with one side muted vs bypassed.

Perhaps one way isn't more 'correct' than the other. I don't know.
I'm not sure how IK intended it. But I do know there is a pretty stark difference in saturation.

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Seriously, that level discrepancy wouldn't bother me.
There's the input control to adjust for that.
Being able to use either left or right exclusively might be useful if for easier editing you're recording hardware amp signal and DI to the same stereo track like I do.
Ymmv,
susiwong

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I've done some experimenting and I've found that due to equal pan law, a mono audio file (identical stereo channels) with both L+R summed by AmpliTube is 3dB louder than the same recording pasted onto only one side of a stereo file, which is 3dB louder than it in mono with one side muted before going into AmpliTube. So what I think I'm going to do for the sake of ease (and bits) is just go with summed L+R (mono) and lower the INPUT LEVEL in AmpliTube by -3dB, which will match the level it was when I originally recorded it.

I'll reclaim an insert slot this way, too.

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redshift factor wrote:I've done some experimenting and I've found that due to equal pan law, a mono audio file with both L+R summed by AmpliTube is 3dB louder than the same recording pasted onto only one side of a stereo file, which is 3dB louder than it in mono with one side muted before going into AmpliTube. So what I think I'm going to do for the sake of ease (and bits) is just go with summed L+R and lower the INPUT LEVEL in AmpliTube by -3dB, which will match the level it was when I originally recorded it.

I'll reclaim an insert slot this way, too.
Exactly.
In the real world you'll notice a similar level discrepancy when plugging a mono jack into the TRS input of a mixer as opposed to a TRS jack, possibly due to the fact that the mono jack shortens one side of the symmetrical input.
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
Still, the StereoTools is good to have around, another case where Steinberg ignores basic functionality and fools around with transparent faders and other crap instead. :P :roll:
One instance is always in my stereo master to check mono compatibility (hey Steinberg, anybody actually working with the apps over there ? :-o ) for example, another case is the combined amp/DI guitar track where I send the signal to 2 groups (track out not routed), one with an ampsim and the other for the amp signal, choosing the appropriate side with StereoTools.
Details here in case anybody cares:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=239997
Cheers,
susiwong

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I just hope we still have that phase knob that can add up to 20ms delay on a mic/cab. I use that all the time to add depth and simulate distance between the mic and cab on the far mic in a close/far 2 mic setup.
1ms = ~1 foot. It works quite well.
Please tell me we will still be able to do that!

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And another video!



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Is that *THE* Bruce Dickinson?
More cowbell? Or Up the Irons?
:P

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redshift factor wrote:New video!



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I just hope we still have that phase knob that can add up to 20ms delay on a mic/cab. I use that all the time to add depth and simulate distance between the mic and cab on the far mic in a close/far 2 mic setup.
1ms = ~1 foot. It works quite well.
Please tell me we will still be able to do that!
Looks like this one is replaced by the XY pad, don't know.
I like the idea of moving mics around personally. :tu:
Ymmv,
susiwong

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That's probably not the only way you can do it... :)

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susiwong wrote:Looks like this one is replaced by the XY pad, don't know.
I like the idea of moving mics around personally. :tu:
Yeah, so do I.
I just hope that if the phase knob is gone now, that the Y plane adds delay like it did for realistic mic distance.

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I get the distinct feeling that Overloud, Softube, Naive Instruments, and Peavey are all going to be crying into their beers on Thursday.

But of all the announcements that IK could make that day, the one I want to hear most is "available NOW!" What are the odds of that?

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Available now won't likely happen. We have been committing to realistic yet much faster schedules and will keep to that new reputation as best we can. We really are listening, hope it shows. I'm hearing that this won't be some dog and pony show either, you won't see some guy standing up and showing screenshots or some very calculated playing of scant few features. That should help solidify the commitment to only teasing a little bit but coming through as quickly as possible. You'll see the level of commitment based on what we have playable/working there.

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I'll be happy if that 96kHz tuner bug is finally dead for good...

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UBER cool!!!!!!

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