jkleban wrote:No offense to anyone but I don't care if they upgrade Sampletank 2 to version 3.... someone needs to explain why this software is needed or even has a chance to sell when Kontakt 4 is x64 and has the largest supported third party libraries? It sounds good, it's powerful and it is user extensible?
Jim
PS - I am not trashing IK cause I truly am very excited about AT3.... looks like it is addressing almost all of the issues I have with AT2.
Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Well, I have kontakt and sampletank. Sampletank loads into ram , highly usable sounds for quick sketches and even final mixes, nice search capabilities, highly polished interface that is intuitive, great efx. time stretch etc. It isn't a kontakt killer but it is its own thing and I wouldn't do without it.
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Not quite sure what you mean, doesn't the JMP qualify ? That's what I'd call a MkII.redshift factor wrote: Except that they haven't included a new
Marshall. That is what I find shocking. I was hoping for a MKII.
There's also the KT66 equipped JTM, though this one never existed in reality (no master and 4 inputs instead). Also the spring verb is fantasy, but hey, you can turn it down if you don't need it.
And as Peter said, they have all been brought up to date for AT3 plus the new cab model ...
Ymmv,
susiwong
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I meant a 1959 MKII.
That's a totally different beast than the one in Hendrix.
Also a Jubilee would be nice.
That's a totally different beast than the one in Hendrix.
Also a Jubilee would be nice.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 8149 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Well the opportunities for single-shot models will pretty much be endless, so I guess getting these suggestions in now is a good thing 
And SampleTank 3 will have a lot going for it. There's room for more than one player here, for sure. There's A LOT of possibilities in that market for creative products and creative ways of doing things in general. We've been listening, and I know there are a lot of folks in this company that appreciate what musicians want so if we didn't make AmpliTube 3 boring by bringing in some great new features and sound quality while also competing with certain elements of others' software who says we cannot do so with SampleTank?
There's no throne I can see here. Maybe it is the spirit of NAMM, since I truly enjoy seeing the dichotomy of the huge companies right near the smaller and very cool companies, but there's room for more than one company per "space" for sure. I mean, I suppose even though we've given others such time to catch up that we still know to move forward with the great-sounding AmpliTube
And SampleTank 3 will have a lot going for it. There's room for more than one player here, for sure. There's A LOT of possibilities in that market for creative products and creative ways of doing things in general. We've been listening, and I know there are a lot of folks in this company that appreciate what musicians want so if we didn't make AmpliTube 3 boring by bringing in some great new features and sound quality while also competing with certain elements of others' software who says we cannot do so with SampleTank?
There's no throne I can see here. Maybe it is the spirit of NAMM, since I truly enjoy seeing the dichotomy of the huge companies right near the smaller and very cool companies, but there's room for more than one company per "space" for sure. I mean, I suppose even though we've given others such time to catch up that we still know to move forward with the great-sounding AmpliTube
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
So what's the official word on that?Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:Well the opportunities for single-shot models will pretty much be endless, so I guess getting these suggestions in now is a good thing
I hope a Hiwatt is at the top of the list!
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Exactly, check out amp #26, that's a (mid 70s) JMP MkII, correctly fitted with EL34s, one of the best Marshalls ever.redshift factor wrote:I meant a 1959 MKII.
That's a totally different beast than the one in Hendrix.

Repeatedly featured on Facebook, too, they modelled a 1959.

Granted, master volume and spring reverb (instead of 4 hole) are different, but as long as the tone is right I certainly won't complain.
Ymmv,
susiwong
- KVRAF
- 2707 posts since 23 Mar, 2005 from Detroit
Yeah, I'm hoping IK can do a good Hiwatt and Badcat/Matchless emulation, and maybe some more vintage/boutique type rare amps or just preamps/power amps (like the Marhsall JMP-1, Bogner Fish, Soldano X88, Mesa Triaxis etc.), like a Laney, Bogner, Dumble model. A Badcat amp emulation would rock, as they have have become quite popular with artists in many genres, same with Diamond amps. How about a Mutron III Envelope Follower pedal? But there is only so many tones you get already from the amps they have, boutique types amps are just modded types of the originals anyway. Maybe future upgrades or buy on feautures (kind of like the T-Racks) singles, will include other pedals/new amps or variations or various popular real world mods that are done to the amps.
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I may be mistaken, but I thought the AT Metal JMP Master Volume was a 2203 which are identical to the early JCM 800s.susiwong wrote:Exactly, check out amp #26, that's a (mid 70s) JMP MkII, correctly fitted with EL34s, one of the best Marshalls ever.
I'm talking about the 1959 SLP MKII, which I believe is pre-Master Volume and falls between the JTM model in Hendrix and JMP in Metal. It is a bit difficult to make sense of Marshall's arbitrary and convoluted naming scheme, though.
I have still yet to find anything that actually explains it.
Speaking of Master Volumes, I hope IK suffiently rebuilds the one in Hendrix to be true to the real amp, which didn't have a master volume. But I think in order to maintain compatibility with AT2 presets, the existing amps are going to remain with their inexact layouts and ghost knobs, and we'll have to get new models of the old amps for exact replicas, the way IK did with Fender.
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- KVRist
- 408 posts since 16 Jan, 2007
Speaking of, well, nothing that's been mentioned so far... it would be nice if the intermittent white noise bursts in the demo versions of IK's guitar plugins were a little less aggressive. Even the lowest noise would be enough to deter people from cheating by using demo versions for recording, but the current level nearly blows my ears out. I know when the burst is coming, but I still react like I've been hit with a taser gun. FZZZZZZZTT!
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Those white noise bursts are meant to encourage you to buy it after the trial period ends. IK are nice enough to allow you to continue using it at all! 
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Going by the Facebook pics I believe IK actually modeled two 4 hole models, a JTM with KT66 (Hendrix) and a '70s JMP 1959 (Metal) but packaged them their own way, no big deal for me as long as the tone is right.redshift factor wrote:I may be mistaken, but I thought the AT Metal JMP Master Volume was a 2203 which are identical to the early JCM 800s.susiwong wrote:Exactly, check out amp #26, that's a (mid 70s) JMP MkII, correctly fitted with EL34s, one of the best Marshalls ever.
I'm talking about the 1959 SLP MKII, which I believe is pre-Master Volume and falls between the JTM model in Hendrix and JMP in Metal. It is a bit difficult to make sense of Marshall's arbitrary and convoluted naming scheme, though.
I have still yet to find anything that actually explains it.
Speaking of Master Volumes, I hope IK suffiently rebuilds the one in Hendrix to be true to the real amp, which didn't have a master volume.
SLP imho just stands for SuperLead (i.e. 100W guitar amp), not for an era, I might be wrong though.
Twu good sources about the MMM (Marshall Model Mess
http://www.legendarytones.com/amplifiers.html
http://www.drtube.com/marshall.htm
Have fun,
susiwong
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- KVRist
- 408 posts since 16 Jan, 2007
Thanks, captain Obvious, but the bursts are there throughout the entire trial period, it's not something that appears after the trial has gone past the 10 day mark (after which it won't start at all unless you authorize). I have no problem with the concept as such, but IMO the excessive level is detrimental to evaluating the product.redshift factor wrote:Those white noise bursts are meant to encourage you to buy it after the trial period ends. IK are nice enough to allow you to continue using it at all!
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
So the Vintage Metal Lead is not a 2203 at all, but a 1959?susiwong wrote:Going by the Facebook pics I believe IK actually modeled two 4 hole models, a JTM with KT66 (Hendrix) and a '70s JMP 1959 (Metal) but packaged them their own way, no big deal for me as long as the tone is right.![]()
Huh. OK. I suppose that makes more sense, since the AT2 British Tube Lead 1 is a JCM 800 2204 which can easily be turned into a 2203 by swapping out the 50W EL34 with the 100W EL34.
