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ezyrider · Post by **ezyrider** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:04 am

I can't wait to demo this thing !
Someone already asked about this, but there was no reply : I suppose you can no longer mix the preamp/EQ/poweramp components of different amps as in AT2. As long as this allows more precise simulations of real amps (including additional controls that the real amps has) I think I'll be happy with that.
It would be great to see the amps included in AT2 re-modeled with all the controls

, and get rid of the awful reverb on all models. I haven't played much with AT Fender, but the reverbs seemed individual to each amp. Since IK already has a great reverb plugin, they should include at least 3 rack reverbs in AT3.

BLSheep04 · Post by **BLSheep04** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:11 am

With the New Midi Learn function in AT3, does this mean that the Stealth Pedal can be used with foot switches with more than 2 buttons?

Please say yes.

Jon

saturninus · Post by **saturninus** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:16 am

I got to play around with this!

Unfortunately I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

Sounded pretty good though.

monsterbeetle · Post by **monsterbeetle** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:34 am

just dropping a small request here :

- make the leslie tempo aware and synchable (seems like the slow/fast rotation settings are fixed),
- introduce dynamics/spectral analysis/LFO stomps together with a sidechaining mechanism (like found in guitar rig 3/4), so that any effect parameter could be controlled in real time by the dynamics or spectral content of the input signal (allows to create things like ducking delays, or a have univibe speed and intensity vary depending on either playing dynamics or octave in which you play, etc.)

- is it possible to load one's own impulse responses into amplitube 3?

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:52 am

Love the new preset browser. I can only assume this will be part of SampleTank 3..

bk · Post by bk » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:10 pm

monsterbeetle wrote:- make the leslie tempo aware and synchable (seems like the slow/fast rotation settings are fixed)

If it's a true Leslie simulation, and not just a rotating speaker sim, this won't really be possible. The woofer and tweeter spin seperately, and at differing speeds. The speed ramps up and down at differing rates for the different drivers as well. This is really what makes the "magic" of a Leslie.

pekadan · Post by **pekadan** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Sorry if I've missed it in the thread, but I read something earlier about a special upgrade price if you're the owner of AT2, Metal *and* JH? If so, how much? I know upgrading from one of these is EUR 149.99, but all 3?

Oscat01 · Post by **Oscat01** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:03 pm

Yes I am using Cubase5 64 bit host and at present rely on Jbridge and for me this is more efficient in Asio terms than running Cubase 32bit on Win7 64bit,

Steinberg's bridge is useless and does not look like being improved, they admit it is not perfect and suggest companies such as IK should write 64bit plugins. I don't think it's their place to say such things given the state of their bridging software, but on the other hand they are right.
In October I emailed IK asking whether already owned plugins would be ported over to 64 bit and when or would I have to wait until the release of Amplitube 3. I was informed that plugins would be ported over but that there was not a time scale for this process.

I would rather have a 64 bit X-Gear than Amplitube 3, 64 bit Amplitube 3 would have been even better, but given the present state of affairs where there is no statement on website or any info at all and no mention that Amplitube 3 is 32 bit only in any of the marketing blurb, I shall hang on to my money and think about Guitar rig 4 which is at least 64bit compatible.
Cubase, Cakewalk, Reaper and Studio One all come in 64 bit versions now and how many PC's come with 3Gb of memory, mines got 8Gb and I want to use it !

I have lots of IK plugins and am really disappointed by IK on this front.
So some clarification on this issue would be good.

Of course Amplitube 3 will work on windows 7 64 bit in a 32 bit host daw, but as far as I can tell it will not work in a 64 bit host daw without some kind of bridging solution, just to clarify

Agreed · Post by **Agreed** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:45 pm

64-bit REAPER's bridging works like a champ. In fact it's been able to load some plugins that wouldn't load in the 32-bit version of REAPER, which is weird... But it works very well. Not helpful to Cubase users in the slightest, I wonder why it is that a third-party can write an extremely functional bit bridge but the developers of the VST spec have that mediocre one?

I do agree that it's a shame that more companies aren't already writing 64-bit versions of their software, given that 64-bit CPUs have been around since like 2003 as THE NORM. Why we just finally got 64-bit drivers for the major guitar software players' hardware devices last year (just before NAMM for Native, and later in the year for IKMM) is also pretty strange. But, hey, progress is slow in this business more so than others.

monsterbeetle · Post by **monsterbeetle** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:14 pm

honestly if you're not saturating your ram with gigabytes of samples I see no point in moving to a 64bit OS. One thing I've observed is that for desktop usage 4 gigs on a 64bit OS is roughly equivalent to 2.5 gigs on a 32bit OS. Most software consume almost twice as much as memory when ported to 64bit.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:15 pm

I already found a graphics bug that's been carried over from AT2.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/i ... _Clean.jpg

Solid state amp sim with tubes? Not as expected.

tboulette · Post by **tboulette** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:30 pm

pekadan wrote:Sorry if I've missed it in the thread, but I read something earlier about a special upgrade price if you're the owner of AT2, Metal *and* JH? If so, how much? I know upgrading from one of these is EUR 149.99, but all 3?

I'm still trying to verify this myself, but it would appear that there may be a special deal for people like you and me IF you bought them all at regular price and not as part of any of IKM's crossgrade deals or promotions, or esoundz's specials (which usually involved taking advantage of a crossgrade too).

In my case, I think that means I'm SOL, 'cause at least one product came from a crossgrade or other promotion. I'm a little annoyed by that, TBH, but maybe that's unreasonable. I dunno. I'm not sure that getting a special deal on a product should mean that it's worth less in "upgrade value" to a regularly priced version -- it just means that I got lucky by happening to be in the market for a product during a time when there was a special promotion going on. If I'd known about this then, maybe I would have thought twice. <\end hissy fit>

Now, question for Peter: is my understanding regarding who's eligible for special upgrade pricing correct?

Oscat01 · Post by **Oscat01** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:15 am

monsterbeetle wrote:honestly if you're not saturating your ram with gigabytes of samples I see no point in moving to a 64bit OS. One thing I've observed is that for desktop usage 4 gigs on a 64bit OS is roughly equivalent to 2.5 gigs on a 32bit OS. Most software consume almost twice as much as memory when ported to 64bit.

I have had no memory shortage since moving from XP in either a 64 bit or a 32 bit host, for me it's about how many active tracks I can run.
Jbridge has an optimised mode which works with X-Gear and I have projects which drop out with pops and clicks in 32 bit host but work with some headroom in a 64 bit host. Lots of Software and hardware variables involved,
but for me it really seems 64bit system is more efficient even with bridging.
I would not suggest changing to a 64 bit (Host) system if your happy at the moment, but the future is clear and just as 16 bit which was once all the rage is now obsolete the same will happen to 32 bit, bridging will enable old favorites to be used, but pure 64 bit systems will be the way forward, just a shame it's taking so long.

flostog · Post by **flostog** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:54 am

A3ntar wrote:
Oscat01 wrote:I am having difficulty understanding why there is no mention of 32 bit or 64 bit in any of the literature, it only mentions Windows 7.
64 bit compatibility would be my main reason for upgrading and given how long these systems have been around I had assumed that major manufacturers releases would come in 64 bit as well as 32 bit versions now.
But absence of any mention makes me think that Amplitube 3 is 32 bit only and for me it means two plugins I will not purchase, but that I really want -- have not got the Fender either. When are IK going to make a start on this because as soon as I get some definate clarification about when, then I will look forward to buying IK products again.
What do you mean exactly by 64bits? are you using a 64bits host?

People seem to confuse the 64bit OS with the 64bit plugins

He means that he wants a 64-bit plugin to use in a 64-bit host (probably Cubase due to poor bridging with 32-bit plugins) running on a 64-bit OS. He's not talking about the internal data path within the plugin (which may are may not be 64-bit processing). (Assuming I interpret the OP correctly)

If it's available as a 64-bit plugin, that would be worth the upgrade for me.

Ron

blueman · Post by **blueman** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:48 am

ezyrider wrote:I suppose you can no longer mix the preamp/EQ/poweramp components of different amps as in AT2. As long as this allows more precise simulations of real amps (including additional controls that the real amps has) I think I'll be happy with that.

Good catch! But...ya know...with so many amp models and using the same techniques that were implemented in AmpFender I can live with that. In truth, I find the mix/match preamp/poweramp features to be a bit gimmicky. Just give me high quality amp models

If I want to blend tones I'll just split the chain and dial it in that way (parallel or series).

Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)