Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)

[hibidy]

I dunno, I kinda miss the preamp part a bit, but then again atfender is the best sounding one....so maybe it was gimmicky.

[dblock]

I got to play around with this!

Unfortunately I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

Sounded pretty good though.

I was hoping to hear it sounded damn good without knowing what you're actually doing as well as different somehow.
I already have AT2 and I'm reluctant to shell out $250 more for a new and improved version of the same plugin if the difference doesn't have a WOW factor right out the box. I'd like to hear demos of the same kind of great guitar player software expert guys they use to show the full potential but also straight out the box without any of ikmedias outboard processing, limiting and compression. Just straight out the box by a mediocre guitarist just to hear the pure software tone.

[ynot]

In truth, I find the mix/match preamp/poweramp features to be a bit gimmicky. Just give me high quality amp models

I don't know about gimmicky.Have you tried making the plexi a 50w or using the power amp of the triple rec with the dual rec? Quite useful if ya ask me (I know,no one asked me. ,oh well).

[seagull]

This is probably a dumb question but are the presets going to transfer over from AT2 to AT3 or will there be new/more presets? I don't normally just use presets but some times I like to open it up in stand alone mode and play. Some of the artists presets and the ATJH presets are kind of fun to play around with. Just wondering...

[redshift factor]

We've been informed already that old presets will load. The existing presets will probably still be present, as well as new ones.
And even if old presets aren't included, you can still download them from the Preset XChange under "Factory" in your user area. In fact, it looks like direct access to the Preset XChange is built into the new AT3 preset browser.

So don't worry, it looks like IK has already thought of everything and has it all covered.

[seagull]

Thanks. That's good to know.

[Agreed]

I got to play around with this!

Unfortunately I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

Sounded pretty good though.

I was hoping to hear it sounded damn good without knowing what you're actually doing as well as different somehow.
I already have AT2 and I'm reluctant to shell out $250 more for a new and improved version of the same plugin if the difference doesn't have a WOW factor right out the box. I'd like to hear demos of the same kind of great guitar player software expert guys they use to show the full potential but also straight out the box without any of ikmedias outboard processing, limiting and compression. Just straight out the box by a mediocre guitarist just to hear the pure software tone.

Well, if you've got AT2, upgrading gets you

1. All of your current gear, re-modeled with Amplitube Fender era modeling techniques and technology

2. All of the gear in Amplitube Metal (including what is in my opinion the best sounding Marshall sim in the whole lineup, and tons of great dirt pedals), also all remodeled with the new tech

3. All of the gear in Amplitube Jimi Hendrix Edition (including great, grittier, period-correct classic amps and a bevy of killer fuzzes), ALSO all remodeled with the new tech... that one alone is going to be amazing, the period-correct models getting the Fender technological re-do is going to sound awesome. Remember that Amplitube Fender models Fender's current production lineup, so reissues, not originals - now with AT3 you'll get AT:Fender-quality models of the vintage gear itself.

4. The new amps, pedals, and effects added in AT3, including some pretty attractive and tasty models imo.


When I get my hands on the software, I'll definitely be giving it both in-depth analysis AND the "average joe 6-string" treatment (I am a decent guitarist, I understand that I am not a bad player, but I'm also no Satriani by a LONG shot); I don't do specialized post-processing or mix doctoring to patch up anything, I offer clips straight out of the box so to speak and let the sounds stand or fall on their own merits. But on paper, and knowing what I know about the quality of Amplitube Fender's models, I definitely think it's worth the upgrade (pending, of course, the improvements that the Fender modeling processes should bring to the table all around).

If all you have is Amplitube 2, it's - again, for now, on paper - even more worth the upgrade because in addition to thoroughly re-modeled versions of all of the gear you're familiar with from AT2 you get a ton of extra stuff too, much of which I think you will find synergizes extremely well with the gear you're accustomed to. Think about what you could do just with all the fancy fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedals the new setup will give you to put in front of your amps (and/or each other then your amps).

I think it's Shogger that has the great signature that says something like "there's no plugin for hard work" and knowing what you're doing, but the other side of the coin is that having good tools available will allow you to take your knowledge and hard work and make it go even further.

[redshift factor]

All of the gear in Amplitube Jimi Hendrix Edition (including great, grittier, period-correct classic amps and a bevy of killer fuzzes), ALSO all remodeled with the new tech... that one alone is going to be amazing, the period-correct models getting the Fender technological re-do is going to sound awesome. Remember that Amplitube Fender models Fender's current production lineup, so reissues, not originals - now with AT3 you'll get AT:Fender-quality models of the vintage gear itself.

The problem with JHE is, like AT2, the models may be "period correct", but the amps themselves are not true to the originals. None of the amps modeled in JHE actually had gain knobs, for example. These amps date back before the "master volume" era, so in that sense these are not really "period correct" models after all.

[hibidy]

Well, they may not be "period correct" but they sound(ed) great. Though I never loaded them here in my vista machine.....maybe they won't sound as good in vista

[Agreed]

Yeah, that depends on what they're doing in the DSP though doesn't it? If it's as simple as "if you put the master volume all the way up, it's just like the original" then all they've done is added "free" functionality that a lot of people ended up modding in later when - or even before - the MV amps started being made. But if it actually adds something in the modeled circuit path that wasn't there, then it's not a period correct model, I agree. I'd like clarification on that because I really don't know - but I do know that I always do the "leave the master volume all the way up" thing on the AT:JHE amps, because to me that makes them respond like the classic amps on which they're modeled.

[redshift factor]

I never really understood why they did it that way.
The software already has a master volume for each stage on the bottom status bar.

And the models in AT2 that were single volume with no gain have those silly ghost knobs at the gain stage, but really shouldn't those gain knobs be active, and the volume knobs be the ones inactive, if they are to be true to the amps' signal paths?

Perhaps people complained about not getting enough gain in AT2 so that's why they added gain knobs where they don't belong in JHE?

[hibidy]

You're probably right.

[susiwong]

I was hoping to hear it sounded damn good without knowing what you're actually doing as well as different somehow.
I already have AT2 and I'm reluctant to shell out $250 more for a new and improved version of the same plugin if the difference doesn't have a WOW factor right out the box. I'd like to hear demos of the same kind of great guitar player software expert guys they use to show the full potential but also straight out the box without any of ikmedias outboard processing, limiting and compression. Just straight out the box by a mediocre guitarist just to hear the pure software tone.

Don't know, but audio demos don' tell me a lot with guitar gear, virtual or real.
Give me 15 mins of playing and it's a different story.
Kinda like watching a photo of a place vs actually being there.
Ymmv,
susiwong

[pekadan]

Sorry if I've missed it in the thread, but I read something earlier about a special upgrade price if you're the owner of AT2, Metal *and* JH? If so, how much? I know upgrading from one of these is EUR 149.99, but all 3?

I'm still trying to verify this myself, but it would appear that there may be a special deal for people like you and me IF you bought them all at regular price and not as part of any of IKM's crossgrade deals or promotions, or esoundz's specials (which usually involved taking advantage of a crossgrade too).

In my case, I think that means I'm SOL, 'cause at least one product came from a crossgrade or other promotion. I'm a little annoyed by that, TBH, but maybe that's unreasonable. I dunno. I'm not sure that getting a special deal on a product should mean that it's worth less in "upgrade value" to a regularly priced version -- it just means that I got lucky by happening to be in the market for a product during a time when there was a special promotion going on. If I'd known about this then, maybe I would have thought twice. <\end hissy fit>

Now, question for Peter: is my understanding regarding who's eligible for special upgrade pricing correct?

Just bumping this. Would be nice to know.

[Viv Savage]

Sorry if I've missed it in the thread, but I read something earlier about a special upgrade price if you're the owner of AT2, Metal *and* JH? If so, how much? I know upgrading from one of these is EUR 149.99, but all 3?

I'm still trying to verify this myself, but it would appear that there may be a special deal for people like you and me IF you bought them all at regular price and not as part of any of IKM's crossgrade deals or promotions, or esoundz's specials (which usually involved taking advantage of a crossgrade too).

In my case, I think that means I'm SOL, 'cause at least one product came from a crossgrade or other promotion. I'm a little annoyed by that, TBH, but maybe that's unreasonable. I dunno. I'm not sure that getting a special deal on a product should mean that it's worth less in "upgrade value" to a regularly priced version -- it just means that I got lucky by happening to be in the market for a product during a time when there was a special promotion going on. If I'd known about this then, maybe I would have thought twice. <\end hissy fit>

Now, question for Peter: is my understanding regarding who's eligible for special upgrade pricing correct?

Just bumping this. Would be nice to know.

Or bought them as their bundle (Total Guitar And Bass Bundle). After all that is AT2, Jimi and Metal as well.