KVR Audio

Chuck E. Jesus · Post by **Chuck E. Jesus** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:04 pm

if we could only mute the endless supply of silly threads started by some...

ckatrun411 · Post by **ckatrun411** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:16 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
ckatrun411 wrote:See how nice it is to not be muted? Now we can acknowledge this new piece of information, and retract our incorrect post.
oh noes. kvr's biggest plonker is ignoring me by reading and quoting my posts!

You silly whyterabbyt. Obviously I'm not reading your posts if your muted.

stonestreet · Post by **stonestreet** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:46 pm

amiga909 wrote:
stonestreet wrote: Fruityloops/FLStudio has always has adjustable ppq. I think it defaults to 96. I believe this is the max that MPC can deliver.

a MPC has 960 ppq. i am not that familiar with FL but i doubt its just another notation for the same value in FL?

amiga909

I have a MPC2500 and the manual says 1/4 note = 96 ticks. That is 96 ppq i believe. Unfortunately there is no reference to ppq in the Akai manual. I just assumed that was just another way of saying it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Do the various MPC models have different ppq?

Have fun, Mark

I have just had a look at akiapro site and see that the 5k indeed has 960ppq. My question is answered. Cheers

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:08 pm

well it's gotta be Pro Tools, because it's the most expensive and is still 32 bit. or, it's gotta be FL9, because they get angry and defensive over there

ckatrun411 · Post by **ckatrun411** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:16 pm

wetdentist wrote:well it's gotta be Pro Tools, because it's the most expensive and is still 32 bit. or, it's gotta be FL9, because they get angry and defensive over there

Live long, and prosper!

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:02 pm

ok so I am confused now, what actually governs midi timing ? The DAW ? The Soundcard or a mixture of both ?

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:05 pm

Which DAW has the tightest abs?

digaldeman · Post by **digaldeman** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:52 pm

djanthonyw wrote:Which DAW has the tightest abs?

I workout REAPER's MIDI everyday and it's still looks and feels sloppy. Maybe its genetics.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:09 pm

ckatrun411 wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
ckatrun411 wrote:See how nice it is to not be muted? Now we can acknowledge this new piece of information, and retract our incorrect post.
oh noes. kvr's biggest plonker is ignoring me by reading and quoting my posts!
You silly whyterabbyt. Obviously I'm not reading your posts if your muted.

my muted what?

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:22 pm

Doesnt it depend on the size of your mididata? I mean one mans sloppy midi is another mans tight midi...

amiga909 · Post by **amiga909** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:43 pm

stonestreet wrote:
amiga909 wrote: Fruityloops/FLStudio has always has adjustable ppq. I think it defaults to 96. I believe this is the max that MPC can deliver.
a MPC has 960 ppq. i am not that familiar with FL but i doubt its just another notation for the same value in FL?

amiga909

I have a MPC2500 and the manual says 1/4 note = 96 ticks. That is 96 ppq i believe. Unfortunately there is no reference to ppq in the Akai manual. I just assumed that was just another way of saying it. Please correct me if I am wrong. Do the various MPC models have different ppq?

Have fun, Mark

I have just had a look at akiapro site and see that the 5k indeed has 960ppq. My question is answered. Cheers

thanks for the correction. i am the fool

actually i have a ASQ-10 (old model, which does have 96ppq). however Akais are rock solid. and thats because of:
@LeVzi: as far as i understood efluon the OS is the main factor.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:26 pm

IIRs wrote:I was under the impression that internal midi is sample accurate..?

+1...I think this is a non issue, I have never heard of anyone complain of midi tightness. If you ask me the question is the same as asking which lake has wettest water. No offense intended towards the OP.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:29 pm

djanthonyw wrote:Which DAW has the tightest abs?

Orion

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:46 pm

Hink wrote:I have never heard of anyone complain of midi tightness.

I have. MIDI timing is inherently inaccurate, as its actually impossible to send two events at the same time: they have to form a queue. Add dodgy OS / USB timing on top and it can start to be a real problem. Its a non-issue for me as my keyboard playing sucks and invariably gets quantized anyway.

<edit> I'm talking old-skool midi using a DIN cable, not internal DAW midi which has no such problems.

generalstargazer · Post by **generalstargazer** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:50 pm

do people nowadays have problems with timing and their daws?

Which Daw has the tightest internal midi?