Chords on guitar differ from piano?
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- KVRian
- 950 posts since 4 Dec, 2006 from Netherlands
Ok i have no experience with guitars but i am looking at getting possibly the pettinghouse acoustic guitar. This has an awesome looking chord setting and i was hopeing to play some semi realistic chords with it. Now i remember hearing that guitar chords are different from piano chords.
Is this the case. If i played a simple chord progression on the piano would this come out totally wrong on the pettinhouse guitar?
Is this the case. If i played a simple chord progression on the piano would this come out totally wrong on the pettinhouse guitar?
- KVRist
- 99 posts since 26 Apr, 2004 from Edmonton, Alberta
You would have to voice it accordingly. There are lots of octaves in guitar chords. For example a simple E chord has 3 octaves of the E note.This is a little harder to play on piano. Thank goodness for sequencers!! I would suggest finding a site that shows how guitars chords are played and exactly what notes are in the chords. CHEERS!
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- KVRAF
- 2118 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Athens, Greece
As Rattleshock said it's all about the voicing of chords. For example clusters are very easy on the piano while on the guitar they range from difficult to impossible.
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
Piano chords can be played with the notes in pretty much any order. Guitar chords tend to be much more restrictive as the relative pitching of the string and the ability to stretch fingers up and down the neck determines the number and octave of notes in a chord.
Where inversions are very simple on piano they are much more difficult on guitar (and sometimes near impossible)
Where inversions are very simple on piano they are much more difficult on guitar (and sometimes near impossible)
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
one of those Computer Music or Future Music magazines had a set of midi files for guitar chords, including 'authentic' strum sequence timings
that was a few years ago, but I suspect the midi files are out there somewhere
it makes a significant difference
guitar chords are really open so they cover a lot of spectral space, but also leave a lot of space -- just another reason it's been such a successful instrument
that was a few years ago, but I suspect the midi files are out there somewhere
it makes a significant difference
guitar chords are really open so they cover a lot of spectral space, but also leave a lot of space -- just another reason it's been such a successful instrument
- KVRAF
- 20714 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
The most commonly used guitar chord shape is Root-5th-Root-3rd-5th-Root. For chords involving 7ths, you could either go Root-5th-7th-3rd-5th-Root or Root-3rd-7th-3rd-5th. The James Brown chord is Root-3rd-7th-2nd (really 9th)-5th and I like to follow that up with Root-7th-3rd-6th (really 13th).
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 950 posts since 4 Dec, 2006 from Netherlands
ah pièce of cake reallyUncle E wrote:The most commonly used guitar chord shape is Root-5th-Root-3rd-5th-Root. For chords involving 7ths, you could either go Root-5th-7th-3rd-5th-Root or Root-3rd-7th-3rd-5th. The James Brown chord is Root-3rd-7th-2nd (really 9th)-5th and I like to follow that up with Root-7th-3rd-6th (really 13th).
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
Only if you're using barre chords. It's probably more common to use the open shapes in which the number of notes and the sequence varies greatly from chord to chord.Uncle E wrote:The most commonly used guitar chord shape is Root-5th-Root-3rd-5th-Root.
i.e.
G Major is Root-3rd-5th-Root-5th-Root.
A Major is Root-5th-Root-3rd-5th
C Major is Root-3rd-5th-Root-3rd
D Major is Root-5th-Root-3rd
etc.
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- KVRian
- 1480 posts since 14 Jun, 2003
i remember bein in a music store and a guy came in and asked the clerk if they had any instruments that were really easy to play.
the guy said "sir, if there were instruments that were easy to play our walls would be covered with them".
the guy said "sir, if there were instruments that were easy to play our walls would be covered with them".
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 950 posts since 4 Dec, 2006 from Netherlands
So i guess the solution is get strum acoustic as it does The hard work for you.
- KVRAF
- 20714 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Even in your examples, there are really only two distinct chord shapes.robojam wrote:Only if you're using barre chords. It's probably more common to use the open shapes in which the number of notes and the sequence varies greatly from chord to chord.
- KVRAF
- 12185 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Check out the "Common Guitar Chord equivalents for keyboard" file on the Indiginus website (excellent guitar sample libraries here btw):
http://www.indiginus.com/freedownloads.html
http://www.indiginus.com/freedownloads.html
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
Wasn't disagreeing with your evaluation, just that I thought the open chords were more common. It wasn't until I wrote them down that I realized how similar they look.Uncle E wrote:Even in your examples, there are really only two distinct chord shapes.robojam wrote:Only if you're using barre chords. It's probably more common to use the open shapes in which the number of notes and the sequence varies greatly from chord to chord.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
now the cool thing is one can use those chord structures, but with notes that otherwise wouldn't be reachable/playable on guitar
need a C chord below the E open string, no problem
need a C chord below the E open string, no problem
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
There's always alternate tunings...wrench45us wrote:now the cool thing is one can use those chord structures, but with notes that otherwise wouldn't be reachable/playable on guitar