Is the iPad the Future of Virtual Synth Control?
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Naive Teen Idol Naive Teen Idol https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=157768
- KVRist
- 112 posts since 16 Aug, 2007
Which is to say, will we finally be able to control all those fancy virtual synth UI's by "moving" the sliders and knobs rather than mousing them? Above all else, this is the thing I'm most interested in.
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- KVRAF
- 6390 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
It's amazing. Nobody thought of that before. Oh no, wait. They did: http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php
- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
there is already an automap application for iphone. alas the latency from moving sliders over a wireless network makes it less than ideal. I suppose such timing limitations can be overcome but this must surely be easier for wired controller implementations
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- KVRian
- 1329 posts since 25 Dec, 2005 from Devon, England
It's a start, but it kinda depends on the software that gets written for it and how suitable your software of choice is for touch navigation and control (if it relies heavily on hotkey combos then you'll still be needing a keyboard, etc). Still, if it opens the floodgates for decent-sized wireless multi-touch thingers then it can't be a bad thing.
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- KVRAF
- 18419 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Wait... I'm not entirely sure of this but it would be down right stupid for the automap app to use wi-fi and not bluetooth which would give a response similar to something like a bluetooth mouse. No?ericj23 wrote:there is already an automap application for iphone. alas the latency from moving sliders over a wireless network makes it less than ideal. I suppose such timing limitations can be overcome but this must surely be easier for wired controller implementations
All the reviews here seem to mention that there's no noticable latency.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/ ... n-automap/
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- KVRist
- 280 posts since 21 Feb, 2006 from UK
OP: You can already do all that via TouchOSC, though you'll have to design your own interfaces etc for each synth/daw you want to control. A far more affordable option than the Lemur. Hopefully the developer will make a new version specifically for the iPad to make use of the higher screen size/resolution.
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- KVRist
- 280 posts since 21 Feb, 2006 from UK
I barely noticed the latency over a wi-fi network, it certainly wasn't 'less than ideal'.ericj23 wrote:there is already an automap application for iphone. alas the latency from moving sliders over a wireless network makes it less than ideal. I suppose such timing limitations can be overcome but this must surely be easier for wired controller implementations
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
thats nice. alas i did. the latency was clearly there.SolarRainUK wrote:I barely noticed the latency over a wi-fi network, it certainly wasn't 'less than ideal'.ericj23 wrote:there is already an automap application for iphone. alas the latency from moving sliders over a wireless network makes it less than ideal. I suppose such timing limitations can be overcome but this must surely be easier for wired controller implementations
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'Gamma-UT wrote:It's amazing. Nobody thought of that before. Oh no, wait. They did: http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php
Lemur cost 2000 USD. Think much?
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Naive Teen Idol Naive Teen Idol https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=157768
- KVRist
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- 112 posts since 16 Aug, 2007
But the point here isn't a TouchOSC/Lemur-like "virtual" controller -- rather the ability to pull up the interface itself, so you have, say, a CS-80V and "pull" the sliders or "turn" knobs. I know an iPhone app exists that kind of does that now -- to see the screen and mouse around w your finger. and TouchOSC let's you create yur own controller maps. But the iPad seems way more suited to giving the player control over already existing user-interfaces w its size.
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- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
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- KVRist
- 236 posts since 5 Jul, 2007
I dont see the point tbh.
I posted a link yesterday-ish which leads to a company which is producing a film like screen overaly which will go on any monitor and provide a multi- touch interface. As a result, its only a matter of time until they catch on, and coders start developing their VST plug-ins to operate with more intuitive touch interfaces locally.
I wouldnt buy an iPad for the OP's proposed purpose
I posted a link yesterday-ish which leads to a company which is producing a film like screen overaly which will go on any monitor and provide a multi- touch interface. As a result, its only a matter of time until they catch on, and coders start developing their VST plug-ins to operate with more intuitive touch interfaces locally.
I wouldnt buy an iPad for the OP's proposed purpose
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- KVRAF
- 6390 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
That all comes down to how the software interprets the gestures. Safari on the iPhone, among others, lets you zoom in and out using pinching gestures. Or did you mean Jaadu for remote controlling another computer?Naive Teen Idol wrote:But the point here isn't a TouchOSC/Lemur-like "virtual" controller -- rather the ability to pull up the interface itself, so you have, say, a CS-80V and "pull" the sliders or "turn" knobs. I know an iPhone app exists that kind of does that now -- to see the screen and mouse around w your finger. and TouchOSC let's you create yur own controller maps. But the iPad seems way more suited to giving the player control over already existing user-interfaces w its size.
If so, then there's no real difference between an iPad and something like a Lenovo tablet. I would expect some interesting applications to be created for the iPad but multitouch and remote control won't be exclusive to it.
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- KVRAF
- 6390 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I hope so for their sake. However, there will still be a market for rugged controllers - the iPad (or any other consumer-grade tablet) isn't going to stand up too well to club/gig use.Muzik 4 Machines wrote:i fjazzmutant is brillant enough, theyll sell the lemur OS/app in the app store for 100$ and make 10 times more money than by selling lemurs
