Is 2C's Aether REALLY worth it? (the answer is: yes, certainly)
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- KVRian
- 1119 posts since 29 Jun, 2004 from within you without you
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 24 Jan, 2010
I still have no idea what those parameters stand for or what they really do
Time is obvious. But Shape? Width? Size? Position? I mean seriously, what do those stand for... Is Width in units like feet? Meters? What about Shape... is a really low shape a box and a high one a sphere? Is size how long the room is? Total area? Does Position mean stage position? Like 50 would be center, all the way clockwise would be hard right?
I'm hoping they do complete documentation about every parameter in detail. What the knob does, what it means or represents, and an example of its use. It's one thing to be esoteric. And another entirely, to be obtuse.
-ZN
I'm hoping they do complete documentation about every parameter in detail. What the knob does, what it means or represents, and an example of its use. It's one thing to be esoteric. And another entirely, to be obtuse.
-ZN
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- KVRist
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
well...
the two "out of nowhere" Gui's look very clean to me.
Much more essential and therefore effective.
I like not to be distracted by controllers' organization and to be able to easily find what I need.
When the Gui is "overproduced" it may easily be a risk for the karma of the inspirational moments.
Anyway, I think that 1.5 doesn't have to wait a second because of the user interface !
These are things that can easily be kept evolving through following releases.
I just want to listen to the new early reflections possibilities !!!
have fun and take care,
Luca
the two "out of nowhere" Gui's look very clean to me.
Much more essential and therefore effective.
I like not to be distracted by controllers' organization and to be able to easily find what I need.
When the Gui is "overproduced" it may easily be a risk for the karma of the inspirational moments.
Anyway, I think that 1.5 doesn't have to wait a second because of the user interface !
These are things that can easily be kept evolving through following releases.
I just want to listen to the new early reflections possibilities !!!
have fun and take care,
Luca
- KVRAF
- 7794 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Do we have a release date yet?
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- KVRian
- 1115 posts since 31 Aug, 2004
My question was very simple and competent. So once again: Do they plan any performance improvements? Where is the problem about my question? There are a lot of high quality reverb plugins and Aether is the heaviest and I would like to know about possible performance improvements, nothing else. I am very sure that there is some place to reduce CPU load and plugin loading time and people from galbanum know it too.kmonkey wrote:Your question is not technically right one. First of all you can't know how aether is coded, you can not expect 3-4x better quality , what is better quality to you? Can you describe what you want to perceive in hearing when you compare today aether engine with 3-4 times better? You can't compare aether to lex, two differently sounding tools and for Christ sake let it be that way!poshook wrote:Do you plan any performance improvements? Aether is by far the heaviest reverb plugin I know. 1 instance of Aether is equal to 3-4 instances of Lexicon Native or 5-7 of Breverb. Is there any reason for this even the quality is not 3-4 times better?Galbanum wrote:No sorry. The last Lex alg that is in the new bundle was originally coded sometime in the 90's I think??nexussynth wrote:this has probably been asked before, but do you plan to do an SSE1 version so those of us on older computers can enjoy most of the reverb's sound quality? even the new Lexicon plugins run on an Athalon. in this economy many can not buy a new PC...![]()
(don't quote me, since we don't study lex that closely as emulation is not our goal). All other Lex algs were designed before that. As such, they were written before SSS2/SSE3 etc. So porting is prob not too hard. (I do have to say it is amazing what they were able to accomplish with the available hardware...) We, on the other hand, use some very modern things and we require a reasonably modern computer.
..we are considering something that may help people with older machines, but it is not exactly what you ask for. Can't say anything now.
Aether is amazing, Lex PCM is lovely, we have three kings...Ah yes...ArtsAcoustic one..
Soon we'll have four.. (480L from Relab)...
p.s. on my core duo i see that aether is eating x2 compared to Lexicon, not x3-4..
I do not agree that it does not matter because of 3-4 instances per project. Many people use dual core machines and every single CPU cycle is often very important for their synths and other processes.
And yes, I do not know anything about aether coding but when I look at other hi quality ER/LR concepts the average CPU load is about 2-3x lower.
p.s. thnx andrew from galbanum for nice response. good luck
- KVRAF
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
yes, 1.5 will be offered as x64 for Win VST.
Release date? Last month, I wish... Once we squash the few remaining bugs. Little sense in undoing our obsessive hard work to deliver something great, if there are a bug or two that are going to annoy you and ruin the appreciation of what we have worked so hard to do. 1.0.1 is extremely stable, so we need 1.5.0 to be the same as the user base is quite large now and we need to keep this in mind.
I'm staying out of this other third party GUI design conversation... seems somebody did some things in the past to upset some people?? I don't know anything about it, nor do I want to really. If someone makes a third party GUI like this out of their own ambition and a bunch of people like it, we can of course consider making it available on our site depending on popularity. (So far, it is not completely clear if this example qualifies for that?? Seems opinions are divergent??) Our internal skins will remain the official skins though as there needs to be some cohesion between the GUI, manual, web, marketing, etc...
Release date? Last month, I wish... Once we squash the few remaining bugs. Little sense in undoing our obsessive hard work to deliver something great, if there are a bug or two that are going to annoy you and ruin the appreciation of what we have worked so hard to do. 1.0.1 is extremely stable, so we need 1.5.0 to be the same as the user base is quite large now and we need to keep this in mind.
I'm staying out of this other third party GUI design conversation... seems somebody did some things in the past to upset some people?? I don't know anything about it, nor do I want to really. If someone makes a third party GUI like this out of their own ambition and a bunch of people like it, we can of course consider making it available on our site depending on popularity. (So far, it is not completely clear if this example qualifies for that?? Seems opinions are divergent??) Our internal skins will remain the official skins though as there needs to be some cohesion between the GUI, manual, web, marketing, etc...
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Thanks for the answerGalbanum wrote:yes, 1.5 will be offered as x64 for Win VST.
Release date? Last month, I wish... Once we squash the few remaining bugs. Little sense in undoing our obsessive hard work to deliver something great, if there are a bug or two that are going to annoy you and ruin the appreciation of what we have worked so hard to do. 1.0.1 is extremely stable, so we need 1.5.0 to be the same as the user base is quite large now and we need to keep this in mind.
- KVRAF
- 3540 posts since 1 Oct, 2006 from Um! Where is this?
Sorry to butt in on the thread.Just wondered if anyone knew if the license for Aether is transferable?
Thanks for any help you can give.
Thanks for any help you can give.
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- KVRian
- 541 posts since 1 Jan, 2004
Fair enough, thanks!Galbanum wrote:No sorry. The last Lex alg that is in the new bundle was originally coded sometime in the 90's I think??nexussynth wrote:this has probably been asked before, but do you plan to do an SSE1 version so those of us on older computers can enjoy most of the reverb's sound quality? even the new Lexicon plugins run on an Athalon. in this economy many can not buy a new PC...![]()
(don't quote me, since we don't study lex that closely as emulation is not our goal). All other Lex algs were designed before that. As such, they were written before SSS2/SSE3 etc. So porting is prob not too hard. (I do have to say it is amazing what they were able to accomplish with the available hardware...) We, on the other hand, use some very modern things and we require a reasonably modern computer.
..we are considering something that may help people with older machines, but it is not exactly what you ask for. Can't say anything now.
"..What is simple, is simply seen.."
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- KVRist
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
sorry to bring the subject back to the most important fact: when is 1.5 going to be released ?
