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Hink wrote:just so you dont rely on just harmony central, seems well regarded to me
It's universally panned by gearheads. Sure, you'll always find people who own it that like it, but that doesn't make it well regarded in general.

IK Multimedia makes it a point to pick out the most sought after classic gear for what they model in AmpliTube. The CH-1 is not in that category. It is simply not in the same company as the CE-1, CE-2, CS9, or SCF by any stretch.

You can be sure that IK is not going to be modeling the CH-1. And if they chose to invest their time and resources into modeling it instead one of the myriad other truly in demand pedals to choose from, then yes, it would absolutely be malpractice. But it's not going to happen.

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All right well either way, what are the most sought after pedals? We really hit the mark with the Mistress and Small Stone... Let's get some more like that and also think outside the box. We do rack effects, etc too and there may be more surprises up our sleeve anyway. So let's talk (and hopefully not argue much about) gear. :)

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These are the pedals I most want to see in AmpliTube:

Boss CE-2 and/or Ibanez CS9
Musitronics Mu-Tron III
Rocktron HUSH or MXR SmartGate M-135
Maestro Echoplex or Roland RE-201 SpaceEcho!!!11!!

Plus, I want the MXR Phase90 expanded to include the EVH Block Logo switch, for "the best of both worlds."

And I want a Hiwatt amp, dammit!

And what about adding a GUITAR amp or 2 to Ampeg SVX?
Something like the Ampeg VL-503.

Oh, and that Pignose Meffy suggested.

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redshift factor wrote:
Hink wrote:just so you dont rely on just harmony central, seems well regarded to me
It's universally panned by gearheads.
Strawman :shrug: But where do you get I wanted it modeled from? Did I say that and miss it? I asked how other people felt about it, I'll put you down as a hostile no. I gave the reasons I do and again I know I'm not alone on that. I guess I'm not a gearhead :lol:

Here's a thought, maybe you didn't like it because you couldn't get a good sound out of it...other people can, I can assure you of that. Maybe it's you :shrug:
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redshift factor wrote:These are the pedals I most want to see in AmpliTube:

Boss CE-2 and/or Ibanez CS9
Musitronics Mu-Tron III
Rocktron HUSH or MXR SmartGate M-135
Maestro Echoplex or Roland RE-201 SpaceEcho!!!11!!

Plus, I want the MXR Phase90 expanded to include the EVH Block Logo switch, for "the best of both worlds."

And I want a Hiwatt amp, dammit!

And what about adding a GUITAR amp or 2 to Ampeg SVX?
Something like the Ampeg VL-503.

Oh, and that Pignose Meffy suggested.
Been asking for the Mutron III for a long time. An echoplex wouldn't hurt either.
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redshift factor wrote:And what about adding a GUITAR amp or 2 to Ampeg SVX?
Something like the Ampeg VL-503.
I want an Ampeg Reverberocket!

BTW, I just saw on Sweetwater that they expect to receive AT3 the week of the 28th, which pretty much confirms that IK will be shipping this out next week. It would be great if the pre-orders get it a few days early. :)

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Something along the lines of a Hush 2000 or, even better, a Behringer SNR-2000 might be the single most useful addition imaginable, I own both in hardware and never record DI without them - being able to denoise after recording, non-destructively, would be incredible. :love:
And with the new stereo signal path this one would see some use on non-guitar tracks, too.
Not familiar with the current ISP alternatives, they might even be better ?
A gate/expander, while definitely being useful, just doesn't have the dynamic frequency filter.
Ymmv,
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Hink wrote:Here's a thought, maybe you didn't like it because you couldn't get a good sound out of it...other people can, I can assure you of that. Maybe it's you :shrug:
It's certainly known for being difficult to coax a good sound out of. But for me, I don't like it because it wasn't the sort of chorus I was expecting. When I got it, I didn't really know Boss models very well, and I thought it was the Boss pedal that was synonymous with the '80s chorus sound. In other words, I thought it was the CE-2. Or really, I didn't know that there were multiple models with greatly differing sounds, and the CH-1 would not deliver that infamous Boss chorus sound I was looking for.

I didn't mean to come across hostile. Just enaging in spirited gear banter.

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How about doing something like a Rockman unit (like the X100)? I remember those being all the rage back in the 80's. :) It would be a neat little thing to add.

I have said it before, I will say it again: Amplitube Randy Rhoads and Amplitube Eddie Van Halen, complete with song presets like Amplitube Hendrix.

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The Rockman is an interesting beast - there was a Boston tone thread not too long ago where it came up.

As far as signature series, I do like that - and remember if you have good presets for artists/songs, we are definitely going to have some Preset XChange incentives coming up and the new preset browser and preset system in general makes it WAY easy to identify and keep track of presets with Artist, Band, Song Section, Song Position, and keywords - very descriptive and powerful tagging for future use.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
redshift factor wrote:And what about adding a GUITAR amp or 2 to Ampeg SVX?
Something like the Ampeg VL-503.
I want an Ampeg Reverberocket!

BTW, I just saw on Sweetwater that they expect to receive AT3 the week of the 28th, which pretty much confirms that IK will be shipping this out next week. It would be great if the pre-orders get it a few days early. :)
Oooo put me down for one of those too!

...and while you're at it put me down for a VH140C too. I know it's solid state but man I had one of those and I could get such amazing lead tones out of that thing and the cleans were better IMO than the Roland JC-120.
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redshift factor wrote:
Hink wrote:Here's a thought, maybe you didn't like it because you couldn't get a good sound out of it...other people can, I can assure you of that. Maybe it's you :shrug:
It's certainly known for being difficult to coax a good sound out of. But for me, I don't like it because it wasn't the sort of chorus I was expecting. When I got it, I didn't really know Boss models very well, and I thought it was the Boss pedal that was synonymous with the '80s chorus sound. In other words, I thought it was the CE-2. Or really, I didn't know that there were multiple models with greatly differing sounds, and the CH-1 would not deliver that infamous Boss chorus sound I was looking for.

I didn't mean to come across hostile. Just enaging in spirited gear banter.
no biggie :) I really have never heard complants about it though, but I also don't use much fx or use them too heavily. I prefer not to hear the effects but appreciate the affect if that makes sense ;)

About the Rockman sound, I remember when they came out like it was yesterday. I remember everyone flocking to the stores to buy them and I remember how tiresome the tone became. IMO the rockman defines ear fatigue :hihi: I can see people wanting it and I don't care either way, but it would be a novelty if it was accurately modeled.

As far as artist's tones susiwong touched on this earlier, the amp settings, gear used etc are only a small part of the equation. So many factors come into play right down to string size, brand, how the artist actually tuned the guitar, picks, where they pick.

Tuning you may ask? Yes, very much so and this is a byproduct of TAB. I have never been a fan of TAB because of this and I suspect many artists have had their share of laughs over this. A good example is the difference between open chords and bar chords, the timbre is very different between the two. If the original artist was using open tunings and you are using bar chords in standard tuning it's never going to sound quite right.

If you want an example tune your guitar to Abm and get out Van Halen's first album. (EbAbEbAbBEb) Add lots of drive and flange, start with Aint Talkin 'bout Love and pretty soon you'll see how much of the signature riff is open strings and how when picking it proper you nail the tone.

As for Randy, no magic in his rig at all. He was known for using the good ol' MXR Distortion plus and Marshalls.

The bottom line is unless you're doing the tribute band thing it doesn't really matter. Line six has the whole tone exchange and none of them do it for me, coming close by tweaking is far more beneficial imho than getting the right tone of any single artist. After all, isn't the goal to learn how to use tone to compliment your music...it is for me anyhow (of course your goals may differ than mine) :shrug:
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Yo mamma couldn't get tone from a small stone going into a 57 twin!
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zerocrossing wrote:Yo mamma couldn't get tone from a small stone going into a 57 twin!
:?:
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Hink wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:Yo mamma couldn't get tone from a small stone going into a 57 twin!
:?:
Sorry that wasn't aimed at anyone, er, I meant it was aimed at everyone and just me being silly commenting on what seems to be a silly argument. Hink, don't you know me by now to know that I'm addicted to being a wiseass? ;)
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