LittleOne, Little Phatty emulation

[OutCider]

I don't think vst land is any different to the real world.
Some people will always buy the prettiest model version despite it lacking features or functionality. Heck, it even happens with sexual partners
I think most people however, do like to make sure they get value for money and rise above the superficial of a shiny/sexy gui.

I've never heard the hardware so this synth plug could be way off the mark as an emulation, but taking it only at face value, I like the sounds it makes and the gui is a nice bonus.
If the dev adds a note display for the sequencer so I can tell the pitch of each measure, it'd be a canditate at the right price.

[Hlis93]

i just want to chime in and ask. (as a strictly reason/record user where guis aren't important since they never change) have we gotten to the point in vst land where even if a synth sounds nothing like a synths its meant to emulate, people will buy it just to have a pretty piece of art? it seems people nowadays are choosing form over function. the developers a good artist ill give him that, but i mean really, that's what it seems like to me. people will actually pay money for a great looking plug even if it sucks. am i wrong?

Or it could simply be the gui designer is just extremely talented. Cant blame the graphics guy for doing what they do.

[Mac of BIOnighT]

Frankly, I think a nice gui helps you be creative, as you will use the plug in more often and dig into its features more, plus the fact that using a goodlooking instrument makes you feel better and if you feel better, you make better music. So it's only superficially a superficial attitude, but actually it's got some depth
That's the way it works for me, anyway.

[Madrayken]

Frankly, I think a nice gui helps you be creative, as you will use the plug in more often and dig into its features more, plus the fact that using a goodlooking instrument makes you feel better and if you feel better, you make better music. So it's only superficially a superficial attitude, but actually it's got some depth
That's the way it works for me, anyway.

It seems similar to the 'less is more' thing ('I'm paring down my VST collection') we've seen here on a regular basis. We've such a wealth of choice and potential complexity these days that we're looking for anything that makes making sounds/music a painless confusion-free exercise.

It's why I keep coming back to Toxic and MTron. I mean... how often do I really need a 95 stage envelope?

[Ingonator]

It seems similar to the 'less is more' thing ('I'm paring down my VST collection') we've seen here on a regular basis. We've such a wealth of choice and potential complexity these days that we're looking for anything that makes making sounds/music a painless confusion-free exercise.

Thanks, this is in fact a short summary of why i like LittleOne and other less complex synths like e.g. Strobe or Sylenth1.
I really love the sound of Alchemy, NI Absynth and Zebra but i never liked to program with them since they are either a bit complex for me or it's a question of the GUI. So far I am not sure about the reason. Could be that already enough awesome sounds were available for those synths.

I found the best mix of features, GUI and sound quality in Waldorf Largo, Strobe, Sylenth1 and Synplant which are the synths for that i made the most patches so far. Next in this row is currently LittleOne.

I hope i'll publish my free LittleOne bank sometimes today or tomorrow. This will also include an Init patch and init bank i've made.

[thecontrolcentre]

it's only superficially a superficial attitude

[Mac of BIOnighT]

it's only superficially a superficial attitude

That's when you're not deeply deep

Anyway, regarding the posts above, yes, definitely a simple, intuitive instruments helps me, and many others, I'm sure, make better music because the flow of thoughts and emotions doesn't get broken by having to crawl your way through 5452316767 parameters that you don't really need...

[Robinette]

As far as the emulation of existing instruments:

I have a problem with synthesizer VSTi that are more "scientific experiment" than "instrument".

Some might say that virtual instruments can't just be a replacement of hardware, that new possibilities have to be explored.
But then again, there are hardware purists saying that the VSTi don't sound like the original (Arturia's for example).
So, that alone would leave much room for improvements, as far as the emulation of existing or classic synthesizers.

Beat me over the head with it, but you can chase me with something like Absynth or anything of the sort. Massive is an interesting synthesizer.
Probably my favorite I like to return over and over is the NI Pro-53.
BTW, I hate NI for dropping it. "Komplete" 6 my ass. Inkomplete BS!
I like the sound of the Pro-53, and the GUI too. It absolutely deserves to be ported to the next generation of computer operating systems.

I don't even want to mention the possibility of having numerous synthesizers and sound architectures, plus a recording device like Ableton, portable.......in a laptop. Thirty years ago that was unheard of, you would have needed your own roadie to have all that as hardware.
That alone justifies pure emulations of existing instruments.

It seems similar to the 'less is more' thing ('I'm paring down my VST collection') we've seen here on a regular basis. We've such a wealth of choice and potential complexity these days that we're looking for anything that makes making sounds/music a painless confusion-free exercise.

Good point that brings me to my earlier question about the LittleOne; "Does it deliver"?
For example, all those freeware VST(i). Most of them do something, but not really. And before you know it, you're just busy trying out, instead of making music. And then, if you've used some dorky POS VST(i) just for one song, and never again; you have to keep it on your computer, just to have total recall, if you want to change the song one day.
And that bothers me. There is some POS VST(i) I know I will never use again, but I have to keep it. And just it's existence on my computer mocks me. It sits on my computer, and it's talking to me.

That's why new VSTi instruments have to deliver, they have to be dead-on target.
Otherwise they're a waste of time. And the existing companies have raised the bar very high.

One a side note: I love new sound patches for the VSTi that I already have. If they can show me new possibilities for my existing favorites, it's great. Much better than getting a new instrument every week.

[Gucky]

I for my person like the sound of the LittleOne.
It has the kind of "creamy" sound that I miss with my Minimonsta.
I would like to have more presets with "classical famous Moogsound"
then it would be a good moog clone.

P.S.: I cannot say why but for my ears has the Minimonsta a too cold sound. The LittleOne sounds warmer for me.But maybe that my ears are wrong.

[rasmusklump]

...the Minimonsta sounds like a moog, Littleone sounds like many, many SE synths.....

I don't see the reason to call up 75 Euro when there are gems like the Elektrostudio collection out there for free....

Most of the Littleone presets are the typical SE presets with lots of delays to make a fat good sound, but that are useless in a mix.

[4damind]

I see only "made with synthedit"... And so its (for me) uninteresting

[whyterabbyt]

lol is htis ysnth any good. Its like 10 knobs just wondering? What can u tweak here? hehe?

someone with your current record of bullshit here regarding your own synths might want to try and be less of a cock.

[RunBeerRun]

I have the demo of this, and I say it's one of the best SE synths to some extent. Sounds (averagely) good, and presets are well thought out(nothing I would use).

Still think the sound is too basic to get excited about. Maybe halve the price.

[OBSOLETE165973]

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[Scotty]

Is anyone running this on Cubase 5? The demo is crashing . I installed and uninstalled the original and the update . Loads in the VSTi instrument slot, no sound, GUI won't show up. Crashes when I try repeated to open up the gui. Quite liked the sound of the demo tunes so i would like to give this a try.

I have the demo of this, and I say it's one of the best SE synths to some extent. Sounds (averagely) good, and presets are well thought out(nothing I would use).

Still think the sound is too basic to get excited about. Maybe halve the price.