Sharing your music.... When it's not very good

[robogone]

However arrogance and elitism is even more indictive of insecurity, or in other words I'm okay, you're not okay

My thoughts exactly.

[eduardo_b]

Of course, I'm such a pragmatist.

I guess so.
EDIT! (You're kind of opaque to me today, which is my bad, partly.)

I think that absolutes don't 'actually' apply in anything. The statement isn't a factual statement but more along the lines of a thought experiment or something. *If* nothing is true...

If it's you, it's also me. I find stuff like this difficult to deal with. The generality "everything" simply can't be true. This is why absolutes don't make sense to me. They're over-applied, mis-applied and have lists of exceptions.

I'm thinking -- and correct me if I'm wrong on this -- that we basically are in agreement. Is that possible?

[vurt]

all these ivory towers, careful not to fall.

[eduardo_b]

Perhaps there is objective "truth", I just think we are incapable of perceiving it based on how our consciousness reacts to our surroundings and the effect of every experience which preceded. From that stand point, anything can be permitted to be called music but nothing is truly music. ...if that makes any sense.

Makes complete sense to me. I agree that anything gets to be perceived as music (or not be music) because the perception is what makes it music. Music is only "special" if it connects in a positive emotional way. Otherwise, it's just noise. What that music is, however, is unique to each one of us. It's not objective truth, and as long as we each agree to accept this, everyone gets what they need and sometimes even what they want. Culturally, there's general agreement on what music is, but its specific qualities (i.e., genre) are open to debate.

[Chuck E. Jesus]

all these ivory towers, careful not to fall.

no chance of injury when shit is this deep...

[justin3am]

I'm thinking -- and correct me if I'm wrong on this -- that we basically are in agreement. Is that possible?

I think that this could simultaneously be true and false. All things being equal.

I agree that there are no absolutes, and I think the whole "everything is permitted" is a big part of that. We tend to agree on common definitions based on cues that are familiar to us. Without those physical/psychological/spiritual cues where would we be, without commonality how could I describe my reality to another person? But we do have those common cues which guide us to agree on what we perceive. If everything is permitted though, those cues are arbitrary (no less real but arbitrary).

Now, do I believe all this? Eh, I'd prefer to say that the phrase "nothing is true, everything is permitted" has so many applications in life. IMO of course.

[eduardo_b]

I'm thinking -- and correct me if I'm wrong on this -- that we basically are in agreement. Is that possible?

I think that this could simultaneously be true and false. All things being equal.

Yeah, and we know how often that happens.

[justin3am]

all these ivory towers, careful not to fall.

I'm pretty sure this isn't pointed at me but when I apply it to myself it has a funny meaning.

[vurt]

all these ivory towers, careful not to fall.

I'm pretty sure this isn't pointed at me but when I apply it to myself it has a funny meaning.

you would be the last person i would suggest such a thing of.

[justin3am]

all these ivory towers, careful not to fall.

I'm pretty sure this isn't pointed at me but when I apply it to myself it has a funny meaning.

you would be the last person i would suggest such a thing of.

And why not?! Am I not good enough good enough for the ivory tower club?

Go back to your fairy tales, conformist.

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

I'm glad for the flood of music from all corners. One can hear the most incredible songs and performances from people with next to no gear.

There's a lot to sift through, but there are a lot of gems out there, which aren't on a label.

Some people need all of the gear and studio spaces to be 'just so' before they'll even consider hitting the 'record button.'

Other people work with what little they have; and sometimes the results are profound.

Granted, there is probably a great deal of 'undercooked' material floating about. On the other hand, a song can be 'overcooked.'

My only advice would be that, each artist needs to ask themselves, what it is that they're doing; what they hope to accomplish; then act accordingly.

[Hink]

I'm glad for the flood of music from all corners. One can hear the most incredible songs and performances from people with next to no gear.

There's a lot to sift through, but there are a lot of gems out there, which aren't on a label.

Some people need all of the gear and studio spaces to be 'just so' before they'll even consider hitting the 'record button.'

Other people work with what little they have; and sometimes the results are profound.

Granted, there is probably a great deal of 'undercooked' material floating about. On the other hand, a song can be 'overcooked.'

My only advice would be that, each artist needs to ask themselves, what it is that they're doing; what they hope to accomplish; then act accordingly.

[donkey tugger]

Music, yay, super!

2 minutes till payday...

[vurt]

the proof is in the pudding, thats all im saying.

[ckatrun411]

A thing you actually know something about...