just a quick question about setting up Sends and Busses in my arrangement... Say I have a Snare sound and i have a send on it going to a reverb effect and than i put the channel output to a DrumBus .... What do i do with the output for the Drum Bus and the Reverb Send??? I feel like both should not be going directly to the final out cuz that would double the sound? If anyone can just clarify this for me it would be greatly appreciated
Assigning a channel to both a send and a bus
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- KVRer
- 26 posts since 11 Nov, 2009
Hey guys,
just a quick question about setting up Sends and Busses in my arrangement... Say I have a Snare sound and i have a send on it going to a reverb effect and than i put the channel output to a DrumBus .... What do i do with the output for the Drum Bus and the Reverb Send??? I feel like both should not be going directly to the final out cuz that would double the sound? If anyone can just clarify this for me it would be greatly appreciated
just a quick question about setting up Sends and Busses in my arrangement... Say I have a Snare sound and i have a send on it going to a reverb effect and than i put the channel output to a DrumBus .... What do i do with the output for the Drum Bus and the Reverb Send??? I feel like both should not be going directly to the final out cuz that would double the sound? If anyone can just clarify this for me it would be greatly appreciated
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 14 Jun, 2002 from Montreal Canada
As long as the reverb (or whichever effect e.g. delay) is set to 100% wet then you won't be doubling up the signal.
Your bus/send arrangement is a very normal approach and one that most of us here use.
Your bus/send arrangement is a very normal approach and one that most of us here use.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 26 posts since 11 Nov, 2009
ok that what I needed to know, and just incase, if teh FX isn't 100% wet, what exactly would you do?aucoton wrote:As long as the reverb (or whichever effect e.g. delay) is set to 100% wet then you won't be doubling up the signal.
Your bus/send arrangement is a very normal approach and one that most of us here use.
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- KVRAF
- 8681 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
If you specifically want only a part wet sound, then I'd personally use it as an insert instead - at least that way you're not going to get too complicated when you send to a group. But except in special circumstances I reckon sends should be 100% wet as a rule of thumb.
Unless you're absolutely sure of what you're doing, always have sends wet.
When you send to a group, the channel no longer sounds on its own channel, only on the group. So when you send groups on to the master out there is no doubling. Same with sends - you can send FX into groups as well (if your host allows it) or return sends into main channels (which is what I used to do with h/w desks, and mostly still do with s/w hosts), or you can have them return to the hosts standard returns. Whenever you route a channel output on to somewhere else, you won't double its sound unless you have some weird setup going on. All hosts will default that way.What do i do with the output for the Drum Bus and the Reverb Send??? I feel like both should not be going directly to the final out cuz that would double the sound? If anyone can just clarify this for me it would be greatly appreciated
Unless you're absolutely sure of what you're doing, always have sends wet.
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- KVRian
- 797 posts since 23 Apr, 2009
Also, be aware that there are multiple types of routing for some hosts. The default action for most is after the gain fader stage, while another type can be before the gain fader stage. These options can be handy for certain tasks.
Say you wanted to send a kick drum channel to a compressor sidechain bus, you can set the routing to before the gain fader, so that even if you reduce the kick's volume, the side chaining action will keep ducking to the kick at a constant level.
Say you wanted to send a kick drum channel to a compressor sidechain bus, you can set the routing to before the gain fader, so that even if you reduce the kick's volume, the side chaining action will keep ducking to the kick at a constant level.