Zyklus Improvisor, real-time harmonic sequencer

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bronswerk wrote:Currently Zyklus Improvisor has no sync option at al
That's bad news :(
I would expect max to have an easy way to sync from external midi clock.

Don't care about saving, but being able to sync to an external midi clock is pretty important imo.

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bronswerk wrote:
aitch gee wrote:Will your upload include the Max files ?
Would be very interesting to see how you made this miracle..
That was the plan first, but then I "rediscovered" the possibility of a stand-alone version, so anyone without Max can use it. That is my first priority. But if someone is very interested he/she can give me call.
A standalone version. That would be awesome. How would you control other synths, would you use something similar to midi yoke ?

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Bronswerk, is it possible to harmonize every single slot with its own midi channel, perhaps from different midi controllers or from an multi-split midi controller. This could deliberate a huge experimental potential.
I mean, to harmonize first slot with "left hand" playing from keyboardsplit that sends to midi channel 1,second slot with midi cnhannel two and so on.
It is beautifull transition to play a slow bass line in c major while an riff plays d minor or d major. Also it can be very usefull to hear just violins playing note b while other lines play inside pure c major or minor scale.

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mbncp wrote:
bronswerk wrote:Currently Zyklus Improvisor has no sync option at al
That's bad news :(
I would expect max to have an easy way to sync from external midi clock.

Don't care about saving, but being able to sync to an external midi clock is pretty important imo.
Don't worry, I have already worked out a mechanism to sync to midi clock, but it requires an overhaul of certain aspects of the program. The "problem" is that sequences can have their own "relative" tempo from 1/8x to 8 times the master tempo. The next version will have this, but as a side effect I had to lower the maximum relative tempo each slot can have from 8 times to 4 times.

So, not in this version, but in the next one. If I would include every (useful) feature imaginable than you have a long time to wait I'm afraid.

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maki wrote: This thing is indeed going to bury piano-roll seqencer market. :wink:
Except for people like me who cringe at the idea of "auto" sequencers like this.
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cosmonauttransfer wrote:A standalone version. That would be awesome. How would you control other synths, would you use something similar to midi yoke ?
I'm not sure what you mean here, but I do use MidiYoke to drive soft/hard synths thru Ableton Live.

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maki wrote:Bronswerk, is it possible to harmonize every single slot with its own midi channel, perhaps from different midi controllers or from an multi-split midi controller. This could deliberate a huge experimental potential.
I mean, to harmonize first slot with "left hand" playing from keyboardsplit that sends to midi channel 1,second slot with midi cnhannel two and so on.
It is beautifull transition to play a slow bass line in c major while an riff plays d minor or d major. Also it can be very usefull to hear just violins playing note b while other lines play inside pure c major or minor scale.
Phew...maki, I'm not sure if this is workable. And there is a problem that I mentioned somewhere in the past. The used third-party object for chord recognition has a severe bug (at least the Windows version of it). In normal operation there's no problem, but two instances of this object crashes Max. However, chord recognition and "scale building" are two different things in Zyklus. While it maybe possible I wouldn't count on it. :wink:

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bronswerk wrote:
cosmonauttransfer wrote:A standalone version. That would be awesome. How would you control other synths, would you use something similar to midi yoke ?
I'm not sure what you mean here, but I do use MidiYoke to drive soft/hard synths thru Ableton Live.
How would I go about using it to drive softsynths that I have such as Wusikstation or Mtron etc... How would I make the connections. Sorry if I'm seeming abit thick, but up until now all my midi and sequencing has been done inside a host such as Cubase or Reaper. Presumably if there was a standalone version of Zyklus I would need some means of transmitting the midi from Zyklus to whatever app I'm using to host my vsti's.

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It would seem to me that this would be an ideal application for a 3 dollar microcontroller. You could make it retail for under $200.00 US, and I'd buy it.
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cosmonauttransfer wrote:How would I go about using it to drive softsynths that I have such as Wusikstation or Mtron etc... How would I make the connections. Sorry if I'm seeming abit thick, but up until now all my midi and sequencing has been done inside a host such as Cubase or Reaper. Presumably if there was a standalone version of Zyklus I would need some means of transmitting the midi from Zyklus to whatever app I'm using to host my vsti's.
Just use MidiYoke. It's a freeware application. Think of it as a "virtual midi pipeline" between applications. In Zyklus you can set for each slot the midi out port and midi out channel. So for example select for a certain slot in Zyklus "MidiYoke Out 1" and midi out channel 1 and select in Cubase as input for a certain track "MidiYoke In 1" and midi in channel 1. That's all. Works like a charm.

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JackD wrote:It would seem to me that this would be an ideal application for a 3 dollar microcontroller. You could make it retail for under $200.00 US, and I'd buy it.
In the current Zyklus version you can use the Korg Nanokontrol to remote control the most important parameters, like start/stop system, start/stop slot, toggle layers rec/run/off and midi volume slot. Also I have set up a button to delete the current running recording if a mistake happens.

But what would be ideal, at least for me, is a touchscreen. Now I saw somewhere an advertisement for a 21" multi-touchscreen from Medion for 299(?) euros. A little barebone computer for Zyklus alone, touchscreen and you're the man. 8)

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Talking 'bout the screen... Can it run on, like, a laptop with 1024x768 resolution?
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C00kie wrote:Talking 'bout the screen... Can it run on, like, a laptop with 1024x768 resolution?
It's designed for a 1280*1024 resolution, sorry. For this one-single window application 1024 just wasn't enough otherwise the controls would be very small and hard to read.

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Bronswerk, I was so happy when I got Zyklus but now I am stuggling with midi and GUI. I don't want to discourage you, just telling this like a common user.
-Current size and resolution is a serious issue. To many commands on main screen and to many commands for every slot. Many of those buttons are configuration buttons, they could be hidden in some kind of setup submeny.
-size and shape of buttons is not nice for touchscreen.
-I can not activate chord keyboard, only by mouse. Is this problem with overlapping between record noterange and chord noterange in MIDI IN group?
-I can't get any metronome sound.

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maki wrote:Bronswerk, I was so happy when I got Zyklus but now I am stuggling with midi and GUI. I don't want to discourage you, just telling this like a common user.
-Current size and resolution is a serious issue. To many commands on main screen and to many commands for every slot. Many of those buttons are configuration buttons, they could be hidden in some kind of setup submeny.
-size and shape of buttons is not nice for touchscreen.
-I can not activate chord keyboard, only by mouse. Is this problem with overlapping between record noterange and chord noterange in MIDI IN group?
-I can't get any metronome sound.
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