Ultimate Studio Drums II: The Sequel - GB Discussion Thread

[Chester Desmond]

I think you need to add an "e" to "not".

there are i-map charts in the pages for the individual kits, but I'm not 100% they are the same as the extended i-map in these DM2 kits. It was also posted in the War and Peace length thread for the first GB..

[drummer1]

What are the extras for reaching 300?

Did I miss them somewhere??

I have to admit, I've lost track now, too. If someone joins right now at 334, do they get two or three multi-track kits?

[Squids]

What are the extras for reaching 300?

Did I miss them somewhere??

I have to admit, I've lost track now, too. If someone joins right now at 334, do they get two or three multi-track kits?

They get either three multitrack kits or 2 Multitrack kits and an Infinite Player if they don't already have Infinite Player.

If we hit 400 then you can get 4 MT kits (or 3 + IP).

If we can hit 500 then not only will you get 5 but we're going to add some crazy bonuses on top of that too! Just remember there is ONLY less than 2 weeks left to all of this and there will be no extension! So this is it. Join now and pick up the first bundle too if you don't already have it! (I am speaking to anyone reading).

[bronxsound]

300+ people have already joined the Group Buy. It means that the lowest price trier has been reached. $99 is the current price. However, there are some extras to be earned. Next target level is 300.
>>>>>>>JOIN HERE<<<<<<<

Please bump the following threads:
SOUND ON SOUND FORUM - SPECIAL OFFERS - NEEDS LOGGING IN
ACIDPLANET FORUM
FUTURE PRODUCERS FORUM
GEARSLUTZ FORUM
CAKEWALK FORUM
COCKOS FORUM

esoundz name: lukianowicz

[jarrydee]

By the way, you can use the USDDMP coupon now with the new "Kits Only" Drum Masters 2 Platinum pre-order here: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=4234 Saves you $100 off if you were in either Group Buy (USD1 or USD2).

I'm still awaiting the upgrade pricing for DM1 users.

DM1 Gold to DM2 Gold plus fee for additional material (signature kits) > upgrade pricing?

DM1 Gold to DM2 Platinum (kits only) > upgrade pricing?

Hey Squids, I was woundering if you have any kind of list of the MIDI not numbers for the 1st GB, and this one? Thanks!!

Huh? I'm afraid the meaning of this question seems unclear.

A list, ya know..kick on b-2, Rim shot on c#. Sorry I did not explain it better!! I meant MIDI NOTE #

[chroma]

is this good enough?

http://www.sonicreality.com/imap/

i think the most extended one is the one implemented for the GB kits.
i have an excel spreadsheet with actual note numbers; the names don't match the last picture (I got it off a different picture that Squids posted in one of the massive GB threads) but they are effectively the same thing (i.e. tom 1 alt instead of tom slot 1 extra). I copied & pasted from that into here. The picture only shows note numbers for the C notes, so this still might be helpful.

C#0 Snare Sidestick Extra
D#0 Snare Rimshot Extra
E0 Tom Slot 1 Center
F0 Tom Slot 1 Extra (Edge)
F#0 Tom Slot 1 Rim
G0 Tom Slot 2 Center
G#0 Tom Slot 2 Rim
A0 Tom Slot 2 Extra (Edge)
A#0 Tom Slot 3 Rim
B0 Tom Slot 3 Center
C1 Tom Slot 3 Extra (Edge)
C#1 HiHat Open Extra/Special
D1 Snare Center Extra
D#1 HiHat Bell/Closed 2
E1 Snare Edge Extra
F1 HiHat Foot Open
F#1 Snare Roll 2 (Long Press Roll)
G1 Kick 1 Extra
G#1 Snare Roll 1 (Short Pick Up Roll)
A1 Kick 2 Extra
A#1 Snare Ghost
B1 Kick 1
C2 Kick 2 Main
C#2 Snare Sidestick
D2 Snare Center
D#2 Snare Rim Shot
E2 Snare Edge
F2 HiHat Foot Shut
F#2 HiHat Closed Inside
G2 HiHat Closed Extra
G#2 HiHat Edge
A2 HiHat Choke
A#2 HiHat Open
B2 HiHat Open Edge
C3 Crash Slot 1 Edge
C#3 Crash Slot 1 Inside
D3 Ride Center
D#3 Ride Bell
E3 Tom Slot 4 Center
F3 Tom Slot 4 Extra (Edge)
F#3 Tom Slot 4 Rim
G3 Tom Slot 5 Center
G#3 Tom Slot 5 Rim
A3 Tom Slot 5 Extra (Edge)
A#3 Tom Slot 6 Rim
B3 Tom Slot 6 Center
C4 Tom Slot 6 Extra (Edge)
C#4 Ride Special
D4 Ride Center Extra
D#4 Ride Bell Extra
E4 Ride Crash
F4 Crash Slot 2 Edge
F#4 Crash Slot 2 Inside
G4 Crash Slot 3 Edge
G#4 Crash Slot 3 Inside
A4 Crash 1 Swell
A#4 Crash 1 Bell
B4 Crash 1 Choke
C5 Crash Slot 4 Edge Splash
C#5 Crash Slot 4 Inside (Splash)
D5 Crash Slot 5 Edge China
D#5 Crash Slot 5 Inside (China)
E5 Crash 3 Choke
F5 Crash 5 China Ride
F#5 Crash 5 China Bell
G5 Crash 4 Chok Splash
G#5 Crash 4 Bell Splash
A5 Crash 2 Swell
A#5 Crash 2 Bell
B5 Crash 2 Choke
[/list]

[zedd]

A list, ya know..kick on b-2, Rim shot on c#. Sorry I did not explain it better!! I meant MIDI NOTE #

I would recommend downloading this essential graphic chart:

[chroma]

that's the one... that one matches the list I put up.

[jarrydee]

Thanks to both of you ^^^^^^^^ Thats what I was looking for!!!\Thanks again!!

[HTBoogie]

By the way, you can use the USDDMP coupon now with the new "Kits Only" Drum Masters 2 Platinum pre-order here: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=4234 Saves you $100 off if you were in either Group Buy (USD1 or USD2).

I'm still awaiting the upgrade pricing for DM1 users.

DM1 Gold to DM2 Gold plus fee for additional material (signature kits) > upgrade pricing?

DM1 Gold to DM2 Platinum (kits only) > upgrade pricing?

Hey Squids, I was woundering if you have any kind of list of the MIDI not numbers for the 1st GB, and this one? Thanks!!

Huh? I'm afraid the meaning of this question seems unclear.

A list, ya know..kick on b-2, Rim shot on c#. Sorry I did not explain it better!! I meant MIDI NOTE #

I have a complete, extended, imap drm file that works with Cubase. I do not know if it is the same format for use in other DAWs or not. If there is interest I will send or post a link for download later today.

[Chester Desmond]

A technical question about how the MT kits function.

Is there a pool of room samples (for each of the kit pieces) that play back in tandem with the main note? ie when I trigger a snare note, does it simultaneously play back the snare room sample through the Room channel in the Kontakt mixer? To my understanding, since it's not an effect (like a reverb that is responding to incoming audio whatever it may be) there must be unique samples for each kit piece that have been recorded through the room mic?
Would there be a way to have the room ambience controllable for each kit piece if for some reason you wanted the snare to sound 'roomier' than the toms, for example? In other words a different routing\handling of the "room sample pool". I'm not asking for this feature but rather clarifying if I get the concept.
If I am correct, does the same theory apply to the sub-kick channel?
Also (if I am correct) how would this affect the sound if you swap different MT pieces around? ie would the room sample be a sample of a different drum?

Just curious about the process.

Thanks

[Sampleconstruct]

A technical question about how the MT kits function.

Is there a pool of room samples (for each of the kit pieces) that play back in tandem with the main note? ie when I trigger a snare note, does it simultaneously play back the snare room sample through the Room channel in the Kontakt mixer? To my understanding, since it's not an effect (like a reverb that is responding to incoming audio whatever it may be) there must be unique samples for each kit piece that have been recorded through the room mic?
Would there be a way to have the room ambience controllable for each kit piece if for some reason you wanted the snare to sound 'roomier' than the toms, for example? In other words a different routing\handling of the "room sample pool". I'm not asking for this feature but rather clarifying if I get the concept.
If I am correct, does the same theory apply to the sub-kick channel?
Also (if I am correct) how would this affect the sound if you swap different MT pieces around? ie would the room sample be a sample of a different drum?

Just curious about the process.

Thanks

Each Kit piece has it's own dedicated Voliume Control for the different perspectives, so e.g. the snare has a Volume Control for Room and one for Overheads - and yes these are seperate samples triggered together with the main sample.

esoundz: Samplecontruct

[standalone]

340

[chroma]

If you open an MT kit piece, switch to the Volume pane (default pane that comes up is Mapping). You will see a few knobs (anywhere from 4 to 7 from what I saw), with which you can control the volume of each mic for just that kit piece. And if you hit a kick (for instance), which shows up in 7 different mics, you'll see kontakt plays 7 voices. So they'll have to say for sure, but it sounds like it already works the way you are talking, and it sounds that way too when you play it...

[Chester Desmond]

Thanks guys.. I keep forgetting about all the different pages of options in these kits and have just been using the mixer for levels. More fun awaits!!