KVR Audio

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:25 am

emotica wrote:Must be this new area of lazy, preset-using producers with enough money of buying everything...

Wish I had that money though.

tibah · Post by **tibah** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:07 pm

Tubbs wrote:
wrong, the Sine body oscillator is real synthesis, and is deep like hell by the way. All effects and modulators are realtime as well.

Sorry didnt knew.

I just think its a lot of money of what it can do. It gets you more customized kicks in one tool.

You can get same results with other tools and a bit of more work too.

cyphersuit · Post by **cyphersuit** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:09 pm

Cyforce wrote:
Btw did you also buy the expansions? If yes, how are they? Because the is no demo-mp3 of them

Yep, bought them. They are really good. Obviously the packages feature finished kicks and layers.

What exactly would you like to know?

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:12 pm

Kriminal wrote:
newsie wrote:Also the included top notch samples. Which fetch a hefty price alone. Factor in that and the plugin seems a bit more reasonable.

330 Kick Drum Presets / over 1800 Attack Samples / over 150 Sine Oscillator Presets.

do they have permission to use those samples?

i think charging money for rips is a poor show....

Are these also 'sampled' from someone's mp3 collection?

EPtMe001 · Post by **EPtMe001** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:46 pm

LOL! I've just finished reading this whole thread... Funny!

Anyway, back on topic. The moment I read about Metrum, it brought back memories of a drum machine from the early 90s that may have sparked this concept in percussion design, called the Korg S3.

The concept of Metrum has been around for a long time... obviously! But there's no way in hell I'd pay $149 Euros for it; just because it's more convenient... Even the Multiband Sidechain sounds like a great time saver, but come on guys (V), wake up! Come back to reality.

You're pricing yourselves out of the market. Sure, the pros can afford it, but what about the majority of your market, the "professional hobbyist". The price is simply unjustifiable for what it does. However, I do predict this product will be a major hit on the warez scene.

Now, Syncrosoft... This copy protection scheme is idiotic. Here's why.

1). It doesn't offer any protection against piracy. Do a quick search and you'll have no trouble finding cracked versions of so called Syncrosoft "protected" software. No doubt this protection scheme adds a significant amount to the final price.

2). Devs have got to realise that there are only two users of their products. The ones that pay and the ones that don't. Those that don't pay will always find a way not to, so it is a wasted exercise. At the end of the day, I only want to pay for the devs product. Not for the protection scheme and then again for the inconvenience that the scheme brings with it... Looking at you too Arturia!

Summary: Metrum has potential to be a great sound design tool, but looses all appeal due to ridiculous price and syncrosoftcock protection scheme.

Lou

sonicpowa · Post by **sonicpowa** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:18 pm

Tubbs wrote:wrong, the Sine body oscillator is real synthesis, and is deep like hell by the way.

It's ridiculous to pay 149 EUR for a simple sine oscillator and a bunch of samples (probably used already for VEC series and ripped off CDs). If Drumaxx is 9 EUR then this should be about 4 EUR. I would pay 4 EUR but not with Syncrosoft.

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:19 pm

EPtMe001 wrote:Now, Syncrosoft... This copy protection scheme is idiotic. Here's why.

1). It doesn't offer any protection against piracy.

Wrong.
Inform yourself!

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:57 pm

Nokenoku wrote:
EPtMe001 wrote:Now, Syncrosoft... This copy protection scheme is idiotic. Here's why.

1). It doesn't offer any protection against piracy.
Wrong.
Inform yourself!

would you like me to post links to all the sync stuff that is 'available' ?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:16 pm

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Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:27 pm

Kriminal wrote:would you like me to post links to all the sync stuff that is 'available' ?

1. Inform yourself about how long it took the crackers to do Syncrosoft.
2. There's only one crew, who does it.
3. There's still a lot of uncracked stuff with this protection.

--> This protection works rather good.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:48 pm

So if Drumaxx was developed by them, then price could be 999$?

KicklabXL is just the same thing but for 49$.
Sure, for pop music(trance and so on) Metrum could be a great option. But sorry, I'm so deep in electronic music, so nothing will replace Drumaxx for now.

Rottweiler · Post by **Rottweiler** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:59 pm

Come on, there are shitload of great developers on this site! Somebody could build a sampler with a precise drawable pitch envelope and lets buy that instead of this

.

Seriously.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:59 pm

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Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:00 pm

Igro wrote:KicklabXL is just the same thing but for 49$.

Actually, no.

The synthesis engine is different, you can only layer "one" additional wav file, and Angular Momentum (at least last time I checked) is SynthEdit with Custom Code.

You could take it that way, that Metrum is that expensive due to the additional layers.

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