Hi
I own a Receptor 2 Pro Max and Im searching for a master keyboard to control it...
Can someone help me to find the best one, in terms of controllers, knobs, MIDI switching, etc...?
Please let me know
Cheers
best master keyboard for Receptor
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alessandro.bizzarri alessandro.bizzarri https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=215839
- KVRer
- 21 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
..."the best" is always going to be a hard statement to reply to...
I have a Receptor2 Pro and use several midi keyboards in a daisy chain, from 88 keys to 25 (guess which one is used for piano playing...)
I just got the Novation SL MKII with 61 keys. You will not be able to use the Automap function, but I find the Fazer keys and mechanics they use to be very good, and a keyboard is worthless to me unless the action feels good.
With the Remote SL you should have enough configurable buttons and sliders here to control most parameters you want in the Receptor. I like the layout and feel/visibility of the display, buttons and faders, they are great live. I find the setup of these to be very easy, you can also use a remote program on your PC/Mac to edit them (called templates). It takes a little time to plunge through the midi implementation of the receptor.
I'm sure there are many other suitable midi keyboards for the receptor out there.
I have a Receptor2 Pro and use several midi keyboards in a daisy chain, from 88 keys to 25 (guess which one is used for piano playing...)
I just got the Novation SL MKII with 61 keys. You will not be able to use the Automap function, but I find the Fazer keys and mechanics they use to be very good, and a keyboard is worthless to me unless the action feels good.
With the Remote SL you should have enough configurable buttons and sliders here to control most parameters you want in the Receptor. I like the layout and feel/visibility of the display, buttons and faders, they are great live. I find the setup of these to be very easy, you can also use a remote program on your PC/Mac to edit them (called templates). It takes a little time to plunge through the midi implementation of the receptor.
I'm sure there are many other suitable midi keyboards for the receptor out there.
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alessandro.bizzarri alessandro.bizzarri https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=215839
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
Novation SL MKII seems very interesting, at a first look.
A simple question - I'm not so skilled -:with this keyb can I change easly Midi channels and patches on my Receptor? I need a keyboard I can navigate with, through Receptor patches, banks & midi channels, in order to have the possibility to choose and change sounds easly and quickly, in a live contest.
A simple question - I'm not so skilled -:with this keyb can I change easly Midi channels and patches on my Receptor? I need a keyboard I can navigate with, through Receptor patches, banks & midi channels, in order to have the possibility to choose and change sounds easly and quickly, in a live contest.
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alessandro.bizzarri alessandro.bizzarri https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=215839
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 15 Apr, 2007
The Kurzweil PC3 has made my life with the Receptor much easier. In Setup mode it has the ability to send pretty much any CC or program change on any channel and it can store more setups than you could probably ever use. You could thinkl of the internal sounds as a bonus.
The VAX 77 looks very interesting, since it can hold a library containing all your Receptor patches. Plus poly aftertouch and it folds Biggest downsides are the just plain weird pitch/modwheel placement and that it only holds twelve split/layer combinations, which seem much more limited than the Kurzweil's setups. If yuou need lots of complex setup changes you'd have to setup your splits and layers in the Receptor, which would seem to limit the usefulness of the librarian a bit. Nonetheless, it looks like a very interesting board, even if pricey at $3K.
But the above two get my vote as the best controllers.
K.
The VAX 77 looks very interesting, since it can hold a library containing all your Receptor patches. Plus poly aftertouch and it folds Biggest downsides are the just plain weird pitch/modwheel placement and that it only holds twelve split/layer combinations, which seem much more limited than the Kurzweil's setups. If yuou need lots of complex setup changes you'd have to setup your splits and layers in the Receptor, which would seem to limit the usefulness of the librarian a bit. Nonetheless, it looks like a very interesting board, even if pricey at $3K.
But the above two get my vote as the best controllers.
K.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
[quote="alessandro.bizzarri"]Novation SL MKII seems very interesting, at a first look.
A simple question - I'm not so skilled -:with this keyb can I change easly Midi channels and patches on my Receptor? I need a keyboard I can navigate with, through Receptor patches, banks & midi channels, in order to have the possibility to choose and change sounds easly and quickly, in a live contest.[/quote]
Hi,
most controllers (keyboards) have the possibility to easily change say the midi channel(s) you want to use. Most can also transmit more than one channel per note played (e.g. using overlapping zones). Using e.g. Receptor, this is the simplest way of changing the instrument(s) you want to play. You set up Receptor so that each instrument channel in the mixer "listen" to different channels (default)
When you have chosen the midi channels(s) on your keyboard, sending a "program" change will in a basic setup follow the channel. Say you play on channel 1, the program change will also be a channel 1 command from the keyboard. If Receptor is set up correctly it will pass this program change to the right instrument, but be aware that receptor initially uses program change to change the MULTI. This can be changed in the Setup menu of receptor so program change is directed to the plug in. Not all plugins will listen to such program change, but the Receptor single patch can be controlled (sometimes this requires a littel more study).
The same goes for sending control changes (CC), they also follow initially the channel setup.
Now, in the SL MKII you setup Templates. You can have many Templates, and each Template can be a total setup of all the parameters so that that every knob and slider can be programmed to send the "right commands" you want to Receptor. Any command, you can choose if the knob shall send program change, control change, etc etc, it's all configurable! Most Receptor parameters can be remotely controlled by sending midi CC. So if you choose to use many different MULTIs in Receptor, each template in the SL can be tailored to each MULTI.
However, this is all pretty advanced stuff for a novice. And yes, a simple way of just changing the channel and program change is a default you do by pushing one button and turning a knob on the SL (called global). The display will show you the selected channel and patch.
I'm sure Kurtzweil, VAX, MAudio and other brands has the same features.
Next to the SL I use e.g. a Doepfer LMK 88 key which has a much simpler user interface but the basic you need to switch instruments and patches.
- Eystein
A simple question - I'm not so skilled -:with this keyb can I change easly Midi channels and patches on my Receptor? I need a keyboard I can navigate with, through Receptor patches, banks & midi channels, in order to have the possibility to choose and change sounds easly and quickly, in a live contest.[/quote]
Hi,
most controllers (keyboards) have the possibility to easily change say the midi channel(s) you want to use. Most can also transmit more than one channel per note played (e.g. using overlapping zones). Using e.g. Receptor, this is the simplest way of changing the instrument(s) you want to play. You set up Receptor so that each instrument channel in the mixer "listen" to different channels (default)
When you have chosen the midi channels(s) on your keyboard, sending a "program" change will in a basic setup follow the channel. Say you play on channel 1, the program change will also be a channel 1 command from the keyboard. If Receptor is set up correctly it will pass this program change to the right instrument, but be aware that receptor initially uses program change to change the MULTI. This can be changed in the Setup menu of receptor so program change is directed to the plug in. Not all plugins will listen to such program change, but the Receptor single patch can be controlled (sometimes this requires a littel more study).
The same goes for sending control changes (CC), they also follow initially the channel setup.
Now, in the SL MKII you setup Templates. You can have many Templates, and each Template can be a total setup of all the parameters so that that every knob and slider can be programmed to send the "right commands" you want to Receptor. Any command, you can choose if the knob shall send program change, control change, etc etc, it's all configurable! Most Receptor parameters can be remotely controlled by sending midi CC. So if you choose to use many different MULTIs in Receptor, each template in the SL can be tailored to each MULTI.
However, this is all pretty advanced stuff for a novice. And yes, a simple way of just changing the channel and program change is a default you do by pushing one button and turning a knob on the SL (called global). The display will show you the selected channel and patch.
I'm sure Kurtzweil, VAX, MAudio and other brands has the same features.
Next to the SL I use e.g. a Doepfer LMK 88 key which has a much simpler user interface but the basic you need to switch instruments and patches.
- Eystein