KVR Audio

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:00 am

Lotuzia wrote:
yellowfever wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:Hey Rob he didnt say Massive but that Superwave P80 had Massive potential
FTFY to what I actually said
Have you tried it? Fantastic synth; superb for basses
Never tried it either but tbh I was pulled off by the fact people said there were problems for a long time when people could still buy the synths but they werent delivered ( dont remember all the details but somethinjg like that)

Glad if they come back to life with a standard support

LtZ

Dont wanna go OT, but trust me, the guy Chris is doing a fantastic job now and his synths are really first class imo and very competitively priced. Try the demo (and no, I'm not on commission!)

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:08 am

I'll email Chris if that makes you happy Marc

He's selling stuff on Ebay i see.

Gonna have a listen to P80 demos now.

Rob

JackD · Post by **JackD** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:41 am

rob_lee wrote:
For 2c i'll do you a dry saw wave for 4c i'll make sure the mod wheel does something anything less than 2c i'll send you an *init* preset so you can program your own fnucking sounds

Rob

This was a scene in a Marx Brother movie, wasn't it? I swear.

macalister · Post by **macalister** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:23 am

Lotuzia wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Didn't someone come up with the plan to sell individual patches instead of banks? Can't remember who or even if..............

.15 cents per patch or something. They'd have a preview button etc etc. Seemed like a good idea for the consumer, only buy what you like but it would probably be a nightmare from an operations standpoint.

The problem is that such a shop would have :

1/ One Demo per preset ( wich is a huuuuuuuuge work)
2/ A cart/basket utility (instead of simpe buy me paypal buttons) because you cant expect people to pass thru Paypal 10 times if they biy ten patches.

But the worst is still to come :

Paypal take minimal fees for each transaction, so that you would loose money each time you sell a patch.

In a more general sense, its not worthy to sell soundbanks, or else at a lass than 10$ value on the internet. If you include the delivery work, all the communication/support with users, accountancy, taxes, aso, and if you want offer, besides all that, a professional service, then you have to set some minimal prices.

All the above imho and ........ a bit ime as well

LtZ

Well guys, we collected in all (Single patches & Multis), about 23,000 new Pro Patches ready to go, brand new and HQ created @ last 5 or so months using only Omni, yes, we have 23,000 user patches, not bad right?

now we are thinking in a cool packaging...so good as OMNI

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:32 am

depends on how good or great it is.

good $1
Great $15
insanely great $30

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:13 am

rob_lee wrote:I'll email Chris if that makes you happy Marc He's selling stuff on Ebay i see.
Gonna have a listen to P80 demos now.

LOL hey, you have your own mind to do as you please

Let me know what you think.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:44 am

macalister wrote: Well guys, we collected in all (Single patches & Multis), about 23,000 new Pro Patches ready to go, brand new and HQ created @ last 5 or so months using only Omni, yes, we have 23,000 user patches, not bad right? now we are thinking in a cool packaging...so good as OMNI

23,000 patches? 23,000 diff sounds? i doubt that very much.

Even in basic VA synths with a 128# set a LOT of the sounds are so similar its not even funny....slight variations yes, but you could get those variations by accidently knocking the mouse with you hand...

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:48 am

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=281819

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:56 am

Kriminal wrote: 23,000 patches? 23,000 diff sounds? i doubt that very much.

I think I can press the randomize button 23,000 times too.

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:06 am

macalister wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Didn't someone come up with the plan to sell individual patches instead of banks? Can't remember who or even if..............

.15 cents per patch or something. They'd have a preview button etc etc. Seemed like a good idea for the consumer, only buy what you like but it would probably be a nightmare from an operations standpoint.

The problem is that such a shop would have :

1/ One Demo per preset ( wich is a huuuuuuuuge work)
2/ A cart/basket utility (instead of simpe buy me paypal buttons) because you cant expect people to pass thru Paypal 10 times if they biy ten patches.

But the worst is still to come :

Paypal take minimal fees for each transaction, so that you would loose money each time you sell a patch.

In a more general sense, its not worthy to sell soundbanks, or else at a lass than 10$ value on the internet. If you include the delivery work, all the communication/support with users, accountancy, taxes, aso, and if you want offer, besides all that, a professional service, then you have to set some minimal prices.

All the above imho and ........ a bit ime as well

LtZ

Well guys, we collected in all (Single patches & Multis), about 23,000 new Pro Patches ready to go, brand new and HQ created @ last 5 or so months using only Omni, yes, we have 23,000 user patches, not bad right? now we are thinking in a cool packaging...so good as OMNI

23000 patches in ............. 5 months .........

Well .......

No particular comment

LtZ

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:54 am

mcnoone wrote:
Kriminal wrote: 23,000 patches? 23,000 diff sounds? i doubt that very much.
I think I can press the randomize button 23,000 times too.

Naughty Naughty..you can always tell a randomized preset...not good if your selling banks..look carefully at the parameter settings in a preset hard enough and you can spot a randomized one anywhere.Ok for learning..not good for selling...IMO of course.

23000 diff sounds? Wow then i give up man your the top dog round here now

I hereby retire

Rob

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:01 am

rob_lee wrote:i give up man your the top dog round here now

How do you mean now?

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:07 am

yellowfever wrote:
rob_lee wrote:i give up man your the top dog round here now
How do you mean now?

TiUser · Post by **TiUser** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:14 pm

...this thread gets somehow silly, doesn't it?

People rate prices referring to what it might be worth to them - which is obviously anything from 0 ct to anything...

What does it help?... I stick with my opinion that it basically depends on sales if it pays back to the sound designer. So what about more progressive sales models...

Calculate cost for 10 copies sold... maybe that's 100 bucks each. Then refund to the first 10 buyers and fix a new price if you sell some more. Repeat the procedure in certain steps, maybe 100, 1000 versions etc... So probably people will not share their copies as they know they get always a refund if sales keep on going...

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:25 pm

[quote="TiUser"]...this thread gets somehow silly, doesn't it? :Dquote]

It's good to be silly sometimes as there's far too many people around who take things too serious and are out of touch with the real world so +1 for all silly c**ts posting here.

Rob

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