how would you match lyrics to a melody?

[PatrickDs]

i need to help trying to match some lyrics i made and turn it into a "song"...
any suggestions?

[mauseoleum]

YOU TAKE SOME WORDS. THEN, YOU BEND & SPANK THEM UNTIL THEY START BEHAVING.

[PatrickDs]

wtf? lol
still not helping though...

[SteveBurley2000]

From various books I've learnt the following, which I'm trying to do myself.

Generally, go through each syllable and decide whether it is a short or long syllable in normal conversation.

Mark underneath them thus '-' for short and 'u' for long. (Or whatever symbols you prefer)

Each '-' and 'u' represents a note.

Remember to adjust the length of notes to emphasise important words or syllables, i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are longer for emphasis.

Then, using normal conversational tones, determine the relative pitch of each syllable. 1 being the tonic, 8 being the octave etc. Determine whether each syllable is higher or lower than the previous one. Cross check to make sure you don't go off kilter. Again change a pitch to achieve emphasis. Mark the pitch number underneath each syllable as well.

i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are also higher pitches than in conversation for emphasis.

Finally, a further adjustment for emphasis is to get key words first or last in a line of lyric.

Each line needs to fit a single or couple of bars.

So split your lyrics into bar lengths.

I hope this helps

All the best

[kelvyn]

Kinda difficult to know what you want... You can PM me the lyrics and I can give you some tips if you want.

[kelvyn]

Ooops! My bad... I need the melody as well

[PatrickDs]

From various books I've learnt the following, which I'm trying to do myself.

Generally, go through each syllable and decide whether it is a short or long syllable in normal conversation.

Mark underneath them thus '-' for short and 'u' for long. (Or whatever symbols you prefer)

Each '-' and 'u' represents a note.

Remember to adjust the length of notes to emphasise important words or syllables, i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are longer for emphasis.

Then, using normal conversational tones, determine the relative pitch of each syllable. 1 being the tonic, 8 being the octave etc. Determine whether each syllable is higher or lower than the previous one. Cross check to make sure you don't go off kilter. Again change a pitch to achieve emphasis. Mark the pitch number underneath each syllable as well.

i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are also higher pitches than in conversation for emphasis.

Finally, a further adjustment for emphasis is to get key words first or last in a line of lyric.

Each line needs to fit a single or couple of bars.

So split your lyrics into bar lengths.

I hope this helps

All the best

Thanks for the advice.
i really appreciate it:)

[SteveBurley2000]

However, I'm looking forward to trying mausoleums method in the future.

[PatrickDs]

Kinda difficult to know what you want... You can PM me the lyrics and I can give you some tips if you want.

lol ok i'll PM you the lyrics...but how exactly would this help?

[kelvyn]

It might help you understand how to use words with melody if you see your lyrics tweaked to fit the melody.... I'm no Elvis Costello or Martin Fry but I spend a lot of time on lyrics as they are the meat of emotion in a vocal song.

[PatrickDs]

It might help you understand how to use words with melody if you see your lyrics tweaked to fit the melody.... I'm no Elvis Costello or Martin Fry but I spend a lot of time on lyrics as they are the meat of emotion in a vocal song.

haha ok...
i'll send it now...but idk bout the melody part...

[KVRdataminer]

+1 and some

From various books I've learnt the following, which I'm trying to do myself.

Generally, go through each syllable and decide whether it is a short or long syllable in normal conversation.

Mark underneath them thus '-' for short and 'u' for long. (Or whatever symbols you prefer)

Each '-' and 'u' represents a note.

Remember to adjust the length of notes to emphasise important words or syllables, i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are longer for emphasis.

Then, using normal conversational tones, determine the relative pitch of each syllable. 1 being the tonic, 8 being the octave etc. Determine whether each syllable is higher or lower than the previous one. Cross check to make sure you don't go off kilter. Again change a pitch to achieve emphasis. Mark the pitch number underneath each syllable as well.

i.e. Yesterday, So, Far and Away in the opening line of Yesterday are also higher pitches than in conversation for emphasis.

Finally, a further adjustment for emphasis is to get key words first or last in a line of lyric.

Each line needs to fit a single or couple of bars.

So split your lyrics into bar lengths.

I hope this helps

All the best

[robogone]

I find it helps to pick up a guitar or sit at a piano and just play around with the words sat where I can read them and just work on both simultaneously until I get vocal melody and chords or instrumental melody worked out.