Any news on Adobe Audition 4?

[koolkeys]

Unfortunately, many stations haven't even jumped to Audition 3 because 1.5 worked so well. I think V3 is superior in most every way to 1.5 though, and the improvements in V3 are huge for the little monotonous tasks.

Looks like we've been duped. AA3 is nothing more than CEP with a few more features and veneer.

I'm still on 1.5, and I'd be interested in what major leaps forward have been made since then, putting to one side the MIDI/VSTi functionality (which I'm unlikely to ever use). Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great piece of software, I just didn't like the 'makeover' they gave it in version 2, and haven't seen anything since then to convince me to upgrade - and Optomadic's statement seems to back that up.

Well, you have to think of where I'm coming from, and also to keep in mind that even though I myself am on version 3, the radio network I work at(with lots of studio rooms and hundreds of affiliates depending on our audio) is still on 1.5.

That being said, the absolute best parts of V3, and others at my work who have upgraded to V3 in their homes agree with me, is in the small things. Little things like having fade handles in the edit screen to do fade-ins and outs. HUUUUUGE timesaver over choosing the old way from the effects menu. Being able to select a peak and instantly have a volume knob appear on the selection so you can turn it down, without any menus needed, is also a biggie. The top and tail views come in handy quite a bit as well.

There have been some very big additions to Audition as well, including some cool effects and even better tools for restoration and such, as well as IMO a much easier to use multi-track area(which is again, very big for radio work).

It's in the little things though. When you are working over a couple dozen production spots at a time, they save oodles of time. I understand that some people won't see it as significant enough, but V3 for me has been the best version yet by far. When I have to use 1.5 in one of the rooms at work, I hate it.

Brent

[Blank_Frank]

The fade handles sound interesting, as does the top and tail view. I rarely use the multitrack functionality, and when I do it never seems as instinctive as the rest of the software, so I'm glad to hear that's been improved. I'm also interested in the spectral editing, but I'm not sure if/when I would use it (but I guess, like a lot of functions, you never know how useful they are until they're actually available to you).

At the end of the day it's what you're used to, and I've used AA since the Cool Edit days, so I can do what I need to very quickly. I'm sure that if I upgraded and learned the new features I could be even quicker, but having to go through that learning process, added to the fact that they haven't released a new version for some time, is putting me off upgrading for now (I hate upgrading only to find there's a new version out in a few month's time!)

Then again, if I came into some money...

[headquest]

For me one of the huge improvements since v1.5 is the frequency spectrum editing tools. Also the Mastering Rack for previewing multiple effects at once. YMMV.

[Ozpeter]

I'm no longer an 'Adobe insider', but I've just seen a copy of an email in which the head of the Audition team says they are "actively working on the next release of Audition". Since Audition was separated from the Creative Suite release cycle, I think the Audition development team have still had to put a lot of effort into 'Soundbooth' and it hasn't meant that more focus can be applied to regular Audition releases. But of course now that CS5 is out, hopefully the developers will have a little time on their hands to apply to AA4.

[headquest]

Thanks for sharing that info. Let's "watch this space" then...

[Optomadic]

This is good news.

..hopefully the developers will have a little time on their hands to apply to AA4.

They dont have separate dev team for AA?

[Ozpeter]

As I understand it, part of the reason Adobe bought Syntrillium was to strengthen the audio-handling side of the relevant Adobe products across the board.

(Much needed at the time - for instance, Premiere Pro used to have a bug which, when audio exceeded full scale, wouldn't flat-top it but would invert the peak downwards, causing the most gross distortion).

Developing Soundbooth from scratch, and then significantly enhancing it, has clearly taken up a lot of the audio team's time, hence (in part) the slow development of Audition.

That's my understanding, anyway.

[Ozpeter]

Heh, some actual definite public news -

"... in the next version of Audition we will only be supporting XML as the session format, so you will not be able to save to the binary .ses format. Audition 3.0 supports saving to both the binary and XML session files, so we are recommending if you have Audition 3.0 to save your sessions to XML. Besides the benefits listed in this post, it will also make moving session files to newer versions of Audition much easier."

Adobe product manager Lawson Hancock in a recent blog entry - see http://blogs.adobe.com/insidesound/2010 ... ormat.html for the whole thing.

Human readable session files... reminds me of Reaper... Some of the little utilities I developed for Reaper in my persona of Art Evans (eg "ReaBurn") depended on Reaper's plain text project files, so I'm all in favour of this move as it provides nothing but new opportunities as I see it.

[hxcobd]

So stoked to see some "official" news on a new Audition.

[Optomadic]

Wonder what jobs would have to say if there were a Mac version....



that ran on iPad

[camsr]

Audition has had an interesting history. If you want a good laugh, read the help files from 1.5, indeed!

There are some good chances they will add an autotune system to the next release. Seeing the current market and the addition of features from 2 to 3, it's the next logical step.

One thing that would be cool is the ability to shift pitch in the spectral editing system. It has always been intuitive for me to make a selection and try to drag it around the screen. Sonic mayhem could insue.

But if it turns out to be an utter flop I will check out wavelab, it seems to be making headway.

[Warp69]

[Optomadic]

It's fake, can see vmware icon in menu bar.

[Ozpeter]

That looks genuine to me. It seems to show something that's a combination of Audition and SoundBooth (in terms of look and feel) - if it's genuine I would speculate that they've given the interface and some elements of the workflow and overhaul, added a Mac version (unless it was running in a Windows emulation there, which isn't anything new) and perhaps not done a lot with basic functionality (due to the development effort required for the Mac port if any, and the cosmetic overhaul).

Of course I could be totally wrong. I no longer have any inside info.

[headquest]

Not interested in the Mac port... but some of the other changes there are interesting, such as the ability to see/edit in the waveform view and spectrum view simultaneously. That's definitely new to Audition, and I see no reason to think this is fake.

'twill be very interesting to see what else is new in the next gen. Audition release.

The big thing for me... and this is the real dealbreaker in terms of sticking with Audition or switching to Wavelab 7.0 when it comes out ... is CD burning and comping. Audition lags in this area bigtime compared to SoundForge's and Wavelab's CD burning features. I want, and basically need, to see this improved in the next version of Audition, or I will switch. Simple as...