Is 2C's Aether REALLY worth it? (the answer is: yes, certainly)
- KVRAF
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
no no don't do that... just one. moderation.
and typing under the influence! That will only make things worse!
Of course, green tea is fine too. Point is just to relax and not let forum posts get to you personally...
and typing under the influence! That will only make things worse!
Of course, green tea is fine too. Point is just to relax and not let forum posts get to you personally...
- KVRAF
- 11327 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
@jazzimprov, did I jump the gun? Yes... would I do it again? Yes. There's really nothing to defend, since I made a choice and I don't see wrong in it while others do. So we disagree. That really wouldn't be the first time someone has disagreed on KVR would it?
Yes, my concern was trolling, which is why I did not respond to your comments, but instead to your post count. Guilty as charged, but again I made a decision that I would easily do again given the circumstance. So again, we simply disagree on what's proper KVR etiquette.
I'm actually not embarrassed at all by this. I clearly get that you think I should feel embarrassed, but I simply am not. From my perspective, sh*t happens, and I don't see anything I did as wrong, because as mentioned, I would do it again given the same circumstances. We just don't agree on this, that's all.
Yes, my concern was trolling, which is why I did not respond to your comments, but instead to your post count. Guilty as charged, but again I made a decision that I would easily do again given the circumstance. So again, we simply disagree on what's proper KVR etiquette.
I'm actually not embarrassed at all by this. I clearly get that you think I should feel embarrassed, but I simply am not. From my perspective, sh*t happens, and I don't see anything I did as wrong, because as mentioned, I would do it again given the same circumstances. We just don't agree on this, that's all.
- KVRist
- 342 posts since 17 Nov, 2007 from Perth, Western Australia
But to get us all back on track
Yes, 2C Aether is worth it! You can make whole soundscapes with one VST preset and 2 notes playing an average preset (if you wanna be lazy & experimental like myself).
Mr Souter is one of the support-your-product legends. He rubs shoulders with the likes of Urs Heckman (www.U-He.com), Ralph (from www.Rayzoon.com), HG Fortune (www.hgf-synthesizer.de) and Andy Medforth (www.HGSounds.com).
Support is everything for me.
Support + excellent software (I see Aether users already have a free major upgrade in our inbox) is super rare.
Yes, 2C Aether is worth it! You can make whole soundscapes with one VST preset and 2 notes playing an average preset (if you wanna be lazy & experimental like myself).
Mr Souter is one of the support-your-product legends. He rubs shoulders with the likes of Urs Heckman (www.U-He.com), Ralph (from www.Rayzoon.com), HG Fortune (www.hgf-synthesizer.de) and Andy Medforth (www.HGSounds.com).
Support is everything for me.
Support + excellent software (I see Aether users already have a free major upgrade in our inbox) is super rare.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 12 Apr, 2010
No, No , I'm not saying you should be embarrassed.
I think you may have reacted a bit quick to my post....yes...imo
It reminded me of a post I made long ago,thats all...
(wasn't real happy about that reply ....
afterwards...)
..it was a different situation.......
So we disagree....that is fine.....!
anyways, I'm up for the Tequila Conference at the White House for KVR members.....
See you all there.................

I think you may have reacted a bit quick to my post....yes...imo
It reminded me of a post I made long ago,thats all...
(wasn't real happy about that reply ....
..it was a different situation.......
So we disagree....that is fine.....!
anyways, I'm up for the Tequila Conference at the White House for KVR members.....
See you all there.................
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 16 Nov, 2007 from Spain
From the very first time I had the expreience of working with Galbanum creations with Metasynth, their 'quality' was what REALLY shone out.. You can hear the care and precision in their work..
Aether impov is awesome.. not only as a 'standard' reverb but also as an incredible sound shaping/mangling tool.. And the QUALITY shines through..
Is it worth ....... X ?? well to me it is..
Andrew is a very helpful guy too . (not that that make the reverb sound any better.. but it's better to deal with good people.. isn't it?)
Top work kudos and a BIG thanks for this 1.5 free update!!
WICKED
Hd
Aether impov is awesome.. not only as a 'standard' reverb but also as an incredible sound shaping/mangling tool.. And the QUALITY shines through..
Is it worth ....... X ?? well to me it is..
Andrew is a very helpful guy too . (not that that make the reverb sound any better.. but it's better to deal with good people.. isn't it?)
Top work kudos and a BIG thanks for this 1.5 free update!!
WICKED
Hd
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- Banned
- 95 posts since 25 Feb, 2010
yep, Aether is worth it.
First of all Altiverb doesn't hog alot of cpu. That statement is the complete opposite of the truth and makes me wonder if you've even tested it. Compared to Ableton Live's native reverb at similar settings, it uses only ~3% more than ableton and ableton's native reverb is vastly 'inferior' (not to mention it's not a *true* stereo reverb - it sums the stereo input signal to mono before effecting it) and causes bigger cpu spikes. I know it's a kind of apples/oranges comparison since one is algo and the other is convolution, but still the fact remains Altiverb (6) is extremely resource efficient. Without considering sound quality, it's need for cpu is average at worst. Considering the sound quality it is *extremely* cpu efficient. It likes ram, but it certainly doesn't hog it. At the extremes of quality and room sizes, you're talking about ~130mb ram an instance. The first instance using a little more. Most of the time it will be in the 50/60mb range
Secondly, I think Altiverb is certainly the best convolution reverb I've heard. which is why I own it. But a good algo can easily trump it for many, many reverb tasks. which is why I also own Aether. not to mention a vermona retroverb, that's my reverb holy trinity right there... but I digress...
looking forward to getting stuck into Aether 1.5
this stuck out to me as I own and use Altiverb {and Aether}, and I've tested many reverbs.YoungGen0 wrote:In my opinion I dont think that Aether is the King of Reverb, I still think that nothing beats Audio-ease's Altiverb. They are different in what they can do, but ALtiverb to me has to be the realest sounding Re-verb I have ever heard. The only bad thing about Altiverb is the price tag at $565 as well as not being able to put it on every application. It is top notch and without a shadow of a doubt the best sounding reverb in the game. It just sounds real but it hogs alot of cpu.
Aether is very good, but for live halls, nothing beats the reigning king in Altiverb.
First of all Altiverb doesn't hog alot of cpu. That statement is the complete opposite of the truth and makes me wonder if you've even tested it. Compared to Ableton Live's native reverb at similar settings, it uses only ~3% more than ableton and ableton's native reverb is vastly 'inferior' (not to mention it's not a *true* stereo reverb - it sums the stereo input signal to mono before effecting it) and causes bigger cpu spikes. I know it's a kind of apples/oranges comparison since one is algo and the other is convolution, but still the fact remains Altiverb (6) is extremely resource efficient. Without considering sound quality, it's need for cpu is average at worst. Considering the sound quality it is *extremely* cpu efficient. It likes ram, but it certainly doesn't hog it. At the extremes of quality and room sizes, you're talking about ~130mb ram an instance. The first instance using a little more. Most of the time it will be in the 50/60mb range
Secondly, I think Altiverb is certainly the best convolution reverb I've heard. which is why I own it. But a good algo can easily trump it for many, many reverb tasks. which is why I also own Aether. not to mention a vermona retroverb, that's my reverb holy trinity right there... but I digress...
looking forward to getting stuck into Aether 1.5
- KVRAF
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
OK guys, to thank you for the lively weekend reading
you can be the first to try the new demos.
WIN:
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/ ... inDemo.zip
OSX:
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/ ... SXDemo.zip
Web, manual, etc. will be posted later today and into tomorrow. Press releases go out late tonight...
WIN:
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/ ... inDemo.zip
OSX:
http://www.2caudio.com/products/aether/ ... SXDemo.zip
Web, manual, etc. will be posted later today and into tomorrow. Press releases go out late tonight...
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 12 Apr, 2010
Look forward to the DEMO testing.
Hope you enjoyed the back and forth.....
Sometimes it is a way to scratch the surface to get to some interesting thoughts......
Jim

Hope you enjoyed the back and forth.....
Sometimes it is a way to scratch the surface to get to some interesting thoughts......
Jim
- KVRAF
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
FYI, 1.5.0 is live in the store now also...
Web info is being updated incrementally throughout the day to reflect this...
Web info is being updated incrementally throughout the day to reflect this...
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 4 May, 2008 from West London Depot
- KVRAF
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
BTW at your request, we have improved and replaced the Win installer to allow installation of both 32bit and 64bit versions at the same time in one pass...
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- KVRAF
- 18048 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
sureno wrote:and the "Surprise" ?
the surprise is that, even after our infamous reverb shoot-out. you up 'n' bought aether anyways
now that's what i call baaaaad G.A.S
- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
The Installer doesn't work.. When launching, it does nothing. Is it linked against some special system libs not available on a default XP32?
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- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
See the README. Specifically:
Why is this necessary for about 10% of users, we have no idea. It is some weird windows behavior. It someone has a clue how to avoid this, please let us know and we will change it. So far this one has us stumped.IMPORTANT NOTE: Before launching "setup.exe" make sure it is located on your local computer, and not on a shared network drive. Moving the uncompressed installer folder to your desktop before launching it is a good idea. If you do not do this, and you attempt to run the installer from another local hard-drive and see only an hour-glass icon for a few seconds, and then the installer quits without doing anything, please move the installer folder to your active Desktop folder and launch the installer again from this location.
