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I got that too. About a half dozen or so are way too soft. I've stayed away from the Arp just in case it's the same with those.

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sergevoluminous wrote:I got that too. About a half dozen or so are way too soft. I've stayed away from the Arp just in case it's the same with those.
the arp has 2 volumes as well. it doesn't rattle my ears too terribly when switching sounds :lol:
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Peter - IK Multimedia, thanks for answering some of my questions, but you haven't answered my questions regarding the content. really, i'm on the fence about another purchase. i just need to know if what you have is going to beat what i already have. some better demos would be appreciated. at this point, i'm not even sure what to get for a 4th pack
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androidlove wrote:does cinematik contain loops like premade music? does it contain chords? that's not what i'm looking for. how much control does this pack offer a composer?
It is in between with chromatic instruments that also have weaving textures of orchestral effects. We'll be posting a video example of it soon. It gives some reasonable amount of control the composer while also "auto" droning or evolving in ways that would be difficult to do with just discrete midi orchestral instruments... but I will also say that at this price it is a freakin' no brainer. Get it if it even remotely intrigues you! Come on. At a 4 for 1 that's $12.50? If it isn't worth having for that then I am in the wrong business. ;)

how deep is the layering in the drum pack? does it have a good range like rock, pop, funk, and metal?

Layering? I suppose you mean velocities. SampleTank has up to 8 velocities per key and it varies from kit to kit. Yes the sounds are good for a wide range of styles. Also, same thing applies... if you are into drums and into SampleTank then get it. This one is really useful and the sounds are different than the ones in SS2.

what's the difference between the ss2 ob and the ob expander pack?

The OB Expander Pack is from a Group Buy we did a while ago (as well as the SampleArp). It may have some overlap with SS2 only because SS2 has just so so much in it of everything. But it is not just the OB sounds from SS2 - none of these are by the way. They are all meant to EXPAND your set up even if you have SS2.

is the gm set consistently quality? how deep is the layering? does it overlap ss2?

I wouldn't say every sound is as good as the next in it... (or in any GM set from any company for that matter). But there are some real gems in it. Just listen to the demo! On that one I played a lot of different sounds one by one. If you like what you hear then get it. Again, for this price just a few sounds you like out of the pack are worth the money. It shouldn't be TOO hard a decision! Anyway, there is some overlap with SS2 a little bit maybe but the new bonus sounds don't much at all.


does vintage keys overlap ss2? how deep is the layering?

How deep is your Android Love? (long lost BeeGees song) ;) This too was taken from a past eSoundz Group Buy on Vintage sounds. Maybe a small amount of overlap with SS2 but not enough not to get it. Or in other words there's enough stuff in there that doesn't overlap with material in SS2 that for this price it'd be just plain NUTTY not to get it if you like vintage keyboard sounds!

does anyone have more detailed audio demos? ik, are you aware that your vintage keys ep demo clips?

These are all Sonic Reality libraries sold THROUGH IK. But they aren't done by IK. Peter isn't going to know all of these details either which is why he didn't answer your questions. But I can. I had the demos put together and they don't clip here but I will check to see if anything has happened by the time it got onto IK's site. We have new video demos that I did recently that are being posted on youtube. Right now we just have loop videos but multisample instrument videos are coming this week.

As far as the level differences in SampleTank on some titles, these were all done at different times and SampleTank is a little quirky with regard to its "Parent" sounds which can't be saved back to in the module. As I described earlier it is only a minor inconvenience. We'll look into bringing some levels up on titles where it is more of an issue but this is nothing you can't do yourself and save back a child preset to your liking. Sorry you can't save back to the parent sound... I wish you could too but that is one of the few drawbacks of the current SampleTank 2.5 - perhaps that will change in the future and volume inconsistencies from patch to patch will be less from Sonic Reality. If that is all you have to put up with to get a deal like this though (a full SampleTank engine, gigabyte library and 3 or more libraries) then it would not be the end of the world either!

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thanks. so, i take it the piano, vintage keys, and drums have deep velocity layering since these are dedicated packs as apposed to ss2 where acoustic is an understood afterthought
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androidlove wrote:thanks. so, i take it the piano, vintage keys, and drums have deep velocity layering since these are dedicated packs as apposed to ss2 where acoustic is an understood afterthought
Nothing in SampleTank has what I would consider "deep" velocity layering considering it is RAM-based sample playback and not streaming. But that's not what you get SampleTank sounds for! If you want that then you go higher priced and buy a library for a streaming sampler etc. What SampleTank is ideal for is VARIETY of workstation sounds. It is what you might call a "Rompler". It's like a software sound module... except the sounds are a lot larger than you'd typically find in a hardware keyboard or sound module (many of which we have also worked on).

But, anyway, yes there is more dedication to just those categories in the expansions and there would in many cases be more velocities, more samples across the keyboard, more nuances and more specific variety within that Xpansion Tank 2 library.

It is important not to over think this stuff. Sonic Reality makes sample products that are tens of gigabytes and sell for hundreds (sometimes thousands) of dollars. We're not claiming that that is what this is. But it is clearly an unbelievable deal in terms of what you get for the money regardless. Even if you have SS2 and ST2XL these libraries are meant to EXPAND your set up and normally they'd be $50 EACH if they were even made available at all! Some of them have been hard to get and IK hasn't presented SampleTank libraries in a long time. So to get THREE for ONE or maybe FOUR for ONE or... maybe even more! 5 for 1? 6 for 1???? Foggggeetttaboutit. Relax. Pick whatever seems good and if you don't like it no worries! The extra ones are FREE on top of a silly silly low priced deal in the first place. You can't lose!

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androidlove wrote:thanks. so, i take it the piano, vintage keys, and drums have deep velocity layering since these are dedicated packs as apposed to ss2 where acoustic is an understood afterthought
i guess i should have added a question mark. i don't see where my question has been answered so i will ask clearly. how many layers of velocity do the drums, pianos, and vintage keys (that are velocity sensitive) have on each instrument? i understand sample tank can handle as many as 8 layers, but i would like a product description of what i am purchasing. this seems to be a reasonable request of a retailer

EDIT: we posted at the same time. please do not tell me to not think about what i'm purchasing and just buy this great deal. that is a sure way to insult a consumer
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hi guys.

i'm new on sample tank instrument, so i want to join to this group for enter in ik world.

but before i have some questions; at the moment i work on a macbook pro but i planned to switch on imac when will be updated with new processor.
the question is:

if I now buy the synth and register it through this macbook, I will can then transfer it on new imac? how?
if not, what can i do?

thanks a lot.

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M.I.T.A. wrote:
if I now buy the synth and register it through this macbook, I will can then transfer it on new imac? how?
if not, what can i do?

thanks a lot.
first, i have some sonik capsule stuff and i have to say that the quality of the sampling is very good, so this is really a steal at 50 bucks

second, ik has pretty much the easiest challenge/response systems out there. you can easilly move your software to a new computer. ik starts you out with 3 or 4 authorizations and you can contact support if for some reason you require more. everything is simply laid out in your user area and you shouldn't have an issue if you need to re-format and re-install on the same computer using the same response code as well.

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androidlove wrote:thanks. so, i take it the piano, vintage keys, and drums have deep velocity layering since these are dedicated packs as apposed to ss2 where acoustic is an understood afterthought
i guess i should have added a question mark. i don't see where my question has been answered so i will ask clearly. how many layers of velocity do the drums, pianos, and vintage keys (that are velocity sensitive) have on each instrument? i understand sample tank can handle as many as 8 layers, but i would like a product description of what i am purchasing. this seems to be a reasonable request of a retailer

EDIT: we posted at the same time. please do not tell me to not think about what i'm purchasing and just buy this great deal. that is a sure way to insult a consumer
It is not my intention to insult you. In fact, I would hope you were actually pleased I took quite a bit of time to answer your questions individually (even on a Sunday which is supposed to be my day off but I saw you were anxious for an answer from Peter - who would not know what to answer). But I guess that's just taken for granted. Anyway, I am just talking about the relativity of what this is vs. other products where something like the amount of velocities is a focus. The amount of velocity layers is not a focus or any sort of strong point of these collections in SampleTank format or that information would have been presented front and center. But that doesn't mean the sounds aren't great regardless.

Apart from the upcoming sound lists which will be posted the specific information such as that per sound is not available. It is also not something that can be easily looked at either. SampleTank doesn't have a mapping editor like most samplers do. When we did the sounds spanning about 7 years different selections of samples and velocities were made to suit the sound and the size of the library. I wouldn't even be able to easily find out at this point what had what. Some have two velocites, some have three or more. It can vary sound to sound or even within the same multisampled instrument (especially drums). Figure the average is 2 or 3 which is what one would expect from a Rompler/Workstation.

Hopefully that is enough info for you to go by on a bulk sound deal like this. If not, I'm sorry.
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one more question, squids... how come phil collins insisted on using his big knobby head for the cover of so many 80s releases? i really like the song, against all odds, but come on... that guy's head is really screwed up.

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I really don't know Fanfare. I think it started with his first album called Face Value... but the rest could have been a record company's idea or something.

I know you were kidding btw. Knobby? :shock:

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Squids wrote:I think it started with his first album called Face Value...
see that... you are an encyclopedia of knowledge and you sample like a bitch in heat. bravo! :hihi:

have a nice sunday... 8)

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M.I.T.A. wrote:hi guys.

i'm new on sample tank instrument, so i want to join to this group for enter in ik world.

but before i have some questions; at the moment i work on a macbook pro but i planned to switch on imac when will be updated with new processor.
the question is:

if I now buy the synth and register it through this macbook, I will can then transfer it on new imac? how?
if not, what can i do?

thanks a lot.
Yes. You can just register it again to your iMac and copy the sounds over to it. Easy. Our guy Allen from eSoundz support can help walk you through it if you needed to. If you buy it on esoundz there is 1 gigabyte of additional exclusive sounds on top as well and you still get to download it from IK. Just a different gateway to getting the product with more.

Here's the link: http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?Prod ... ode=XT2KVR

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