One-Synth-Challenge 15 - Krakli's StringZ!

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objectman wrote:.... You really can't just write in Live and then change to the Krakli VST. There's a different flavour to the sound completely which means a lot of tweaking (and saving) between crashes.

This is what I'm doing:

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What are you guys doing in terms of "workflow?" (aka. "crashflow") :roll:
I normally start with the synth we are using, so there will be no need to "match" the setting of a different synth.
So it's : write/arrange/mix -> render/post in forum -> vote...ready.
Your problem here is of course the fact that Stringz2 is not working as it should in your DAW.
I also think that the workflow you mentioned above is NOT your normal way of writing/composing.
As soon as a synth is not working in your DAW, you better just give up and wait for the next OSC ( Anubis almost made me give up, and throw the PC out of the window :wink: )
Or you could do it the way you do it now. There is hardly any workflow, just a lot of praying involved, in that technique, which kills the writing.
But... hats of to you for persevering !! I'm curious about what you come up with.
Next OSC will be easier ( I hope ).

Good luck.

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Just done another 90 mins writing ... in musagi! .... got about another 30 seconds done in that time!! ... Stop-frame animation is faster! :-o

I dont know whats hardest ... getting the right sound out of StringZ .. or finding a way of making musagi behave!

Earlier, I attempted to add a new part ... and everytime I tried, the part jumped all over the screen and disappeared!!

Now I save, close, and then reopen frequently as the cpu hit is lowest before the play buton is hit .... So I'm setting my parts up and writing as much as I dare before I hit the play button each time .... I must be mad persevering with this combination :-o :-o

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tattiemannie wrote:I attempted to add a new part ... and everytime I tried, the part jumped all over the screen and disappeared!!
Sounds like a nice new videogame... maybe you can have it patented :wink:

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tattiemannie wrote:I must be mad persevering with this combination :-o :-o
No. No. Alas. Not mad. Bold and audacious! :lol:

For those of you using Live, I've worked out that if you freeze all the tracks and then unfreeze each individual track as you work on it, the VST (mostly) behaves and it's kinda like just having one instance. And your CPU gets less ... angry! :x
Edwin James Lynch (aka "Objectman")
Dead Eddy | Day Job | Follow Me

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Well, mad or not, I've just about finished my track! .... I'll say this for musagi though .... it only really starts to stutter when the CPU load approaches 135% ... :hihi:

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... A little under 4 days to go! :-o

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Bloody 'ell, this is the hardest comp so far .. my track still sounds like shit!!!

I'm gonna launch the Texture comp in the next couple of days, and just for a bit of fun I'm gonna introduce a new challenge to myself.
As we are, last place chooses a synth. From now on ( until I decide I cant take it anymore!! ) second last will nominate a host for me to use :hihi: ... as long as it is free! (trial period demos acceptable also)

And on that subject, I've not heard back from vanmorrison re. synth for OSC17 ... I will try making contact again, but may have to turn to mrblitz if I dont get any response .... ( so hope you're thinking hard Andy )
... Anyway, to get the ball rolling, as mrblitz is second last in the anubis comp, he has the honour of choosing which host I will use for OSC16 :)

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Ok, that was quick .... I see vanmorrison has disabled his PM and email .... so congrats mr blitz .... you get to choose the synth for OSC17 ... and the host I use for OSC16 :) .... take your time! :help:

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lol... tattiemannie, i'd say, on OSC 16; use your favorite host.

For OSC 17, i'll probably choose some kind of chiptune synth. Maybe i should wait to discuss this further, at the end of the OSC 15 voting thread...

If i'm not mistaken, it looks like for OSC 16, we're doing Texture? (edit: if one reads back a message or two; indeed, Texture it is...)
Last edited by PurpleCatfishBettie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Can we download all the entries from OSC1-14 anywhere? And maybe have a Grande Poobah? ;) (well, maybe not that but I'd sure like to hear other entries across the months / years)
Edwin James Lynch (aka "Objectman")
Dead Eddy | Day Job | Follow Me

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Finally I tried to cope with StringZ2's boxy-ness and quirky parameters (I don't remember any other synth having a "tunnel" parameter)...

This is the outcome:

No StringZ attached - HiEnergy

This tune was prototyped in Cognitone MPS/Synfire Pro and produced in Ableton Live 8.

9 instances of Krakli StringZ 2 (lead guitar x2, fill-in chords x1, bass x2, pad x3, choir x1)
Freeware effects: Kjaerhus Classic Compressor, Kjaerhus Classic Delay, Kjaerhus Classic Reverb, Kjaerhus Classic

Master Limiter
DAW integrated effects: Ableton EQ8 equalizer, Ableton utility for narrowing the stereo width on the bass

I hope you enjoy listening to this little tune like I enjoyed making it.

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Great stuff HiEnergy! ... cheers for the submission :)

objectman .... if you click on the 4shared link in my sig below, you can download a text file .... I think its called OSC links or something, ... it's an index of relevant OSC links/threads etc .... there's a link on there to the previous OSC tracks folder :)

mrblitz ... thank you!!!!!!! :hihi:

OK, gonna upload my track now :?

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OK, thats me in the comp!

Strung Up - tattiemannie

Host ( mix and composition ) : musagi
Sounds: 8x StringZ2
FX .... none! .... musagi doesn't do fx plugs!!!!!!

Host ( normalisation and mastering ) : FL8
FX .... 2x mdaDynamics

Automation: none! ... musagi can do some nifty automation, but not when CPU is running at 135.7% !!!!!!!!!!!!


.... Doing this track has taken around 20 hours!!! ... I now know what its like to be one of those monkeys caught in a monkey-jar! ... I have those nuts in my hand, I know how to find my mouth, but cant get my hand out of the jar! ... and even if I suss that an open hand can slip out of the jar neck, I lose the nuts!
Anyway, I'm free now! .... roll on the texture comp!!!! :hihi:

... Another strange thing, I started out with some fat brass, and ended up with cheap harmonica!! How did that happen! :-o :o :shock:

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tattiemannie wrote:... Another strange thing, I started out with some fat brass, and ended up with cheap harmonica!! How did that happen! :-o :o :shock:
Hey ! you found the secret, I rendered a track 3 times, without changing anything, and they ALL sounded different.
Amazing plugin this... 8)

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Yes Yeager ... there was that phenomenon as well! .... !
Anyway, there's about 3 days and about 6 and a half hours to go, and if we dont get a track from Dwsel, we can assume that the choise of synth has been the ultimate OSC pisstake! :hihi:

... Oh and if dwsel does submit a track, I'm voting for it, and so is my unborn sock puppet! ... no way I'm allowing dwsel to choose the synth again! :hihi:

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