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Songshark, the loops in Loop Collections are in REX format. The audio is marked with splits, and the midi file is simply an array of chromatical notes that play the audio chunks (slices) in order: C plays the first chunk, C# the next one and so on. There are a lot of free examples around, check out for REX or RX2 and see if your DAW supports them (Kontakt does, I think).

So the midi files can't be used with other drumkits, the notes are not mapped to drumkit, but to the audio slices. You can rearrange the order the slices are played though.

(Sorry if my explanation sucks, I'm new to this loop stuff too :oops: )

Sami

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IK Multimedia Xpansion Tank 2 Group Buy

Now 4X1! Currently at 2209 users! Need 2500 users for 5X1!

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/xtgroupbuy

and

http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=4293

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http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=epointz

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androidlove wrote:here's a dry run on the hip hop instrument pack. it's only the tip. you could ride out a career with just this set
http://www.4shared.com/audio/mH09rixa/hip_it.html
Pretty kewl!

BBC :wheee:

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androidlove wrote:here's a dry run on the hip hop instrument pack. it's only the tip. you could ride out a career with just this set
http://www.4shared.com/audio/mH09rixa/hip_it.html
Nice tune! Thanks for posting it!

I don't do hip-hop, but I do need a 4th lib to download. :) Could this one be useful in other genres than hip-hop would you say?

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thanks guys. it means a lot to me to get your feedback. now that i've had some sleep, the ending is more annoying that it was before i went to bed. i've had a better idea this morning. i'll fix it tonight

@pekadan yes, this is a very versatile set. i write a in a lot of different styles. these are the sounds i've been trying to get out of soft synths. now i have the real deal. i'll throw together a non-hip hop demo later. what style would you like to hear?
"Most people who experiment with drugs are not lying in the streets, suffocating on their own vomit. If you want to see some of that, go to the Pub on Saturday night at closing time." ozwest

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androidlove wrote:...
@pekadan yes, this is a very versatile set. i write a in a lot of different styles. these are the sounds i've been trying to get out of soft synths. now i have the real deal. i'll throw together a non-hip hop demo later. what style would you like to hear?
I love you! :D How about something more pop/rock like?

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Hey peeps

I am a newb when it comes to this type of product.

So do I already have to have IK software purchased in order for the samples etc to work? (Is this an upgrade etc)

Or does it come with its own VST style thing I can load in Sonar 7 home studio? Then load kits or samples into it?

Basically what I am looking for are 3 categories:

1: Uber hardcore goth cyberpunk electronica
2: Epic orchestral sounds
3: Stripped down stringed/woodwind/insruments/piano for olde folk mellow songs

Example of 1:



Example of 2 is kinda on the intro to my track (but I need more samples):
http://www.myspace.com/automatonrocks (there is no bass etc but you get the idea)

Example of 3 is here:
(try not to cry when you hear the best voice on the planet haha)

I know it is a stretch but maybe I can get at least a chunk of these styles from this deal.

It is for a thrash/industrial project that has very mellow moments.

I lost 4 drummers in 2 years so I thought to hell with it, I am going industrial, haha.

Since I threw myself into recording with virtual instruments, plug ins and effects etc, I have to be honest...The names of these products are doing my head in. :-o

Xpansion
Komplete
nXtasy
Spectralive
SpectraPhy

What does it all mean? What is going on? I have had to read for 10 mins before "Oh, its a limiter"

Anyway, cool site, awesome place. Just a very steep curve for someone with no training/clue.
Last edited by thefyn on Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Yeah, it is a VSTi that will plug into Sonar. If you have got Komplete you have most of your bases already covered, but this is a great deal for a lot of sounds. I don't know about uber goth industrial cyberpunk (I thought "cyberpunk" was science fiction), but yeah, these sounds fit a lot of styles. It sounds like you might want to work on learning what you have got though.

John

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2ndStringer wrote:Yeah, it is a VSTi that will plug into Sonar. If you have got Komplete you have most of your bases already covered, but this is a great deal for a lot of sounds. I don't know about uber goth industrial cyberpunk (I thought "cyberpunk" was science fiction), but yeah, these sounds fit a lot of styles. It sounds like you might want to work on learning what you have got though.

John
I don't have komplete. That was the other one I was eyeing. I just was having a jab at the uber nameing spelling Boyz to Men style I see EVERYWHERE in vst land. I dipped my toes and bought Battery 1 with licence for $25 and the free Kontakt download and I do like what I hear.

I did buy some samples from another no brainer deal:

Sonic Reality R.A.W. 4 DL Multibox

Frankly they were pretty crappy.

And I got one from ebay which was actually pretty bloody awesome, but some of the files had audio glitches. From AUDIO GENETICS, INC (that is where you hear some of the symphonic drums on my myspace track)

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saminurmela wrote:Songshark, the loops in Loop Collections are in REX format. The audio is marked with splits, and the midi file is simply an array of chromatical notes that play the audio chunks (slices) in order: C plays the first chunk, C# the next one and so on. There are a lot of free examples around, check out for REX or RX2 and see if your DAW supports them (Kontakt does, I think).

So the midi files can't be used with other drumkits, the notes are not mapped to drumkit, but to the audio slices. You can rearrange the order the slices are played though.

(Sorry if my explanation sucks, I'm new to this loop stuff too :oops: )

Sami
Thanks, Sami. I think I'm sort of following...Does each "slice" consist of an individual drum hit? I imagine that is not the case, since on many beats more than one drum/cymbal will be struck simultaneously -- up to four if they were sampled from a human drummer.

So -- if I understand you -- these are really purely audio loops -- with the limitations imposed by premixed audio. I guess when it comes to drums, I'd rather have the flexibility of midi loops. Thanks again for your explanation.

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Now I am confused:

I already have this:

Sonic Reality R.A.W. 4 DL Multibox (From a no brainer deal).

Are these IK packs similar quality to the RAW no brainer deal?

These guys:

Hip Hop Dirty South
•Trip Hop
• Blues Grooves
• Nashville Pop Grooves
• Vintage Rock Grooves
• Vintage Soul Grooves
• 60s Motown Grooves
• Jazz Grooves
• Country Folk Rhythms
• World Grooves

Because I got to pick 4 of these, and they sounded like elevator music.

I see refs for the "30 high-quality sound libraries" but can't find the woods for the trees. Where is this selection? And is each library the same quality at the Sonic Reality R.A.W. 4 DL Multibox deal?

This is the email I got (and it mentions the Sonic Reality duders in there) Is Sonic Reality IKs sample makers is what I am trying to ask.


email (that confused the crap out of me)





Xpansion Tank 2 Group Buy for SampleTank 2 XT HAS REACHED 4 for 1! But on eSoundz only you get FIVE* for the price of 1!

30 NEW Xpansion Tank 2 Libraries for SampleTank
Available in a Group Buy until May 31st!

NOW YOU GET 4 FOR 1 PLUS A FIFTH* LIBRARY which is an EXCLUSIVE MULTIPLE CHOICE OFFER FROM SR!
All For Only $49.95

If that s not enough you get the fully Xpandable SampleTank 2 XT software included with 1 GB of sounds FREE!
When 2500 users join in, the Group Buy IK s Group Buy will be at 5 for 1 which means 6 for 1 on esoundz!*

Here are some of the options you will be able to choose 1 of per time you join on esoundz:

• Exclusive 1 gigabyte "Wild Card" bonus library featuring previously unreleased ST sounds from SR and more
• Studio Drums Capsule (adds the ability to have individual kit pieces to make your own custom kits)

R.A.W. (Rex, Apple Loops & Wave) titles for use with Ableton Live, FL Studio, ProTools, Cubase, Logic, Stylus RMX, Reason, Sonar, Digital Performer, Tracktion and any compatible DAW or Sampler:

• Hip Hop Dirty South
•Trip Hop
• Blues Grooves
• Nashville Pop Grooves
• Vintage Rock Grooves
• Vintage Soul Grooves
• 60s Motown Grooves
• Jazz Grooves
• Country Folk Rhythms
• World Grooves


Click here to join on eSoundz and take advantage of our exclusive extra sounds in our traditional "Raise the Deal" offer. To discuss with other users visit our Group Buy thread in our company forum: here.

Xpansion Tank 2 and the FREE SampleTank 2 XT (fully expandable engine that includes 1GB of sounds!)
The Xpansion Tank 2 Series from Sonic Reality is a collection of 30 high-quality sound libraries for SampleTank 2. Comprising of 15 multi-sampled and 15 loop titles, totaling nearly 10,000 new sounds offering 30 GB of samples. Each collection contains between 500 megabytes to over 1 gigabyte of loops and samples, plus offers "production ready", inspiring, high-quality sounds for making music in any style from Pop to Hip Hop to Rock, Jazz, Country, Electronic, Film Scores and more!

15 Timeless Sonic Reality Multi-Sampled Instrument Titles!

The multisampled instrument titles offer close to 4,000 instruments sounds with a selection of Pianos, Guitars, Bass, Drums, Strings, Synths, Vintage Keyboards, Vocals, Electronic and World instruments taking full advantage of SampleTank 2 s highly flexible and efficient sample engine, with high-quality integrated effects.

15 Classic Sonic Reality Loop Titles!

The 6,000 loops included are provided as either construction kit "menu maps" for instant song building with drum grooves, bass lines, rhythm parts which are in sync across the keyboard or as individual loops broken down into "slice maps" that can be played in real time as well as by the associated MIDI file per loop in a sequencer for total flexibility in tempo and feel.

Join now and get SampleTank 2 XT with 1 gigabyte of sounds plus your choice of 3 more titles out of a selection of 30 with the possibility of getting a 5th title for FREE when the group buy reaches 2500+ people!

*IMPORTANT: The new EXTRA MULTIPLE CHOICE BONUS library will be a separate download and from a different selection of titles by Sonic Reality. The download will be offered through Sonic Reality s DownloadableSoundz and a redeem code will be provided for each time you join this group buy on esoundz (so you can come back and choose ANOTHER title from the multiple choice extras). This redeem code will be available in your esoundz member s download area on May 15th, 2010. Not only will you have the option to choose the exclusive 1 gigabyte library that includes previously unreleased SampleTank sounds but alternatively you can choose select R.A.W. loop collections and more as options.


Visit The New Sonic Reality.com!
Check out the latest Sonic Reality products on these brand new product pages with news, videos and more: http://www.sonicreality.com/products/ Weekly updates are being made with news and reviews on EpiK DrumS - A Ken Scott Collection, DrummerTracks, Drum Masters 2, Serafine FX Tron, Cinema Sessions and more. Check back each week for more info!


Sincerely,


The eSoundz Team

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Hey Squids...

How come the Latin Loop paks aren't included in this deal?

Since I decided to take the plunge and buy all the SampeTank Slice Loop versions of the REX packs I already have, it would be nice to complete the set.

The missing ones which I would like are:

Latin Afro Cuban
Latin Brazilian
Latin Caribbean

If you added those, I might join this GB a third time.

Alternatively, I wouldn't mind paying an upgrade fee to get the ReTank versions of those paks, but it would certainly be nice if the upgrade pricing was along the lines of this GB... (i.e. $5 per pak upgrade). That seems dirt cheap... but it is content that I have purchased already.

I've loaded my REX paks into DrumCore so that I can audition the loops easily, and can drag them into my DAW. By getting these ST Loop Slice versions of the same paks, I will easily be able to load up the ST patches after determining what I need via DrumCore. 8)
Somewhere in the background zedd

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thefyn wrote:Now I am confused:

I already have this:

Sonic Reality R.A.W. 4 DL Multibox (From a no brainer deal).

Are these IK packs similar quality to the RAW no brainer deal?
Same content in a different (and arguably more useful format). I'm getting both.
thefyn wrote:Because I got to pick 4 of these, and they sounded like elevator music.
Well now I'm confused. They don't sound like elevator music at all. They are awesome!!

Nothing against elevator music... (if you happen to be in an elevator.) :P
Somewhere in the background zedd

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zedd wrote:
thefyn wrote:Now I am confused:

I already have this:

Sonic Reality R.A.W. 4 DL Multibox (From a no brainer deal).

Are these IK packs similar quality to the RAW no brainer deal?
Same content in a different (and arguably more useful format). I'm getting both.
thefyn wrote:Because I got to pick 4 of these, and they sounded like elevator music.
Well now I'm confused. They don't sound like elevator music at all. They are awesome!!

Nothing against elevator music... (if you happen to be in an elevator.) :P
So what is the general consensus on the Sonic Reality R.A.W. titles? I'm no expert at all, but I was left cold from using them.

They sounded good for things like jingles, not pristine remakes of yesteryears vibes. I was expecting something more direct recorded sample sounding. They kinda reminded me of a good keyboard from 10 years ago, doing impressions of folk and hip hop or whatever style I downloaded.

Maybe I should take a closer look. I'll be honest, I probably only ended up with about 10% of the 4 titles on my HD after I played practically every sample and binned 9 out of 10 as unusable.

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Just re-read the email from esoundz:

"The 6,000 loops included are provided as either construction kit "menu maps" for instant song building with drum grooves, bass lines, rhythm parts which are in sync across the keyboard or as individual loops broken down into "slice maps" that can be played in real time as well as by the associated MIDI file per loop in a sequencer for total flexibility in tempo and feel."

I was wondering how to use the slice maps? What/where are these "associated MIDI files"?

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