How the Dutch do it
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- KVRian
- 630 posts since 11 Nov, 2003 from Vancouver. Canada
So H stood for 'Hell'?
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- KVRAF
- 2070 posts since 2 Apr, 2004
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
I believe this is actually because long time ago there was a distinction between the "soft", "rounded" B (which Germans called B; this is the same as Bb) and the sharp, high, (German: hoch B), resulting in the name "H."Danno wrote:So H stood for 'Hell'?
I am a theorist and a composer, so if there are some musicologists around, feel free to correct me.
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 23 Feb, 2009
That could pretty much be true. Personally I never understood how come I live in a country known by two names (Netherlands and Holland), and I am Dutch... France speaks French and the people are French, Germany has German and Germans. How come that low land is different? How many times English speakers mistake my Dutch for Deutsch...mistertoast wrote:Pennsylvania Dutch refers to people of German heritage. "The Dutch are generally regarded as one of several Germanic peoples. The German, Deutsch, the archaic Dutch, Deitsch, and the modern Dutch, Duits, each mean 'German' yet are all cognates of the English, 'Dutch'. Hostetler (1993) gives the origin of 'Dutch' as a "folk-rendering" of 'Deitsch'."
And Bach putting his name in music; way cool! Never knew that. Anyone knows which piece exactly?
- KVRAF
- 9091 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherneverlands
Ahhhh that explains why the best softsynths are from both German (Native Instruments, u-he, Tone2) AND Dutch (FabFilter, LennarDigital) developers. It's all in the blood..Viv Savage wrote:That could pretty much be true. Personally I never understood how come I live in a country known by two names (Netherlands and Holland), and I am Dutch... France speaks French and the people are French, Germany has German and Germans. How come that low land is different? How many times English speakers mistake my Dutch for Deutsch...mistertoast wrote:Pennsylvania Dutch refers to people of German heritage. "The Dutch are generally regarded as one of several Germanic peoples. The German, Deutsch, the archaic Dutch, Deitsch, and the modern Dutch, Duits, each mean 'German' yet are all cognates of the English, 'Dutch'. Hostetler (1993) gives the origin of 'Dutch' as a "folk-rendering" of 'Deitsch'."
And Bach putting his name in music; way cool! Never knew that. Anyone knows which piece exactly?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 427 posts since 24 Sep, 2009
"The Art of FugueViv Savage wrote:And Bach putting his name in music; way cool! Never knew that. Anyone knows which piece exactly?
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2. Contrapunctus II: Simple monothematic 4-voice fugues on main theme, accompanied by a 'French' style dotted rhythm motif. The 14 iterations of the subject may stand for the composer's surname (B + A + C + H = 14)
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19. Fuga a 3 Soggetti (Contrapunctus XIV): 4-voice triple, possibly quadruple, fugue, the third subject of which is based on the BACH motif, B♭ - A - C - B♮ ('H' in German letter notation)." Source: Wikipedia
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
With the exception of Ees => Es and Aes => As, you were right.halfstep wrote:I don't think it goes like this:
Cis, Dis, Eis, Gis, Ais, Bis...
Ces, Des, Ees, Fes, Aes, Bes...
Double sharps are Cisis &c and double flats are Beses &c.
Victor.