IK Multimedia Xpansion Tank 2 Group Buy
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 3 Nov, 2009
I compose electronic music so I do not need 24 kinds of pianos and 13 violins, I need a set of sounds that cover the landscape as much as possible with good sound quality. ok there is omnisynth 2 but I do not like the quality.
so I chose these xpansions:
1-Symphony Strings 2
2-SampleOB Xpander 2
3-Cinematik Collection
4-Bass Collection 2
5-Piano Collection 2
6-World Instruments Collection
Bonus-Guitar Collection
now I have a doubt, can only Cinematik Collection xpansion cover my need?
if yes i can buy other xpansions (but not the Arp, i have Arturia synth)
there are many overlaps, particullary in Cinematik Collection vs the others instruments xpansion Symphony Strings 2 + piano collection 2 etc.. ?
thx guys, i hope to receive soon the aut. key
so I chose these xpansions:
1-Symphony Strings 2
2-SampleOB Xpander 2
3-Cinematik Collection
4-Bass Collection 2
5-Piano Collection 2
6-World Instruments Collection
Bonus-Guitar Collection
now I have a doubt, can only Cinematik Collection xpansion cover my need?
if yes i can buy other xpansions (but not the Arp, i have Arturia synth)
there are many overlaps, particullary in Cinematik Collection vs the others instruments xpansion Symphony Strings 2 + piano collection 2 etc.. ?
thx guys, i hope to receive soon the aut. key
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Rocklin, CA
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It seems to me that Cinematik Collection is a pretty speciality library. It's mostly pads, effects, and the like. It's hardly a "meat and potatoes" collection of sounds. I can't see any way that Cinematik could be seen as a replacement for, say, Bass Collection 2.
The only Xpansion Tank that could sort of claim to "cover the landscape as much as possible" by iself is Omnisynth, and as you say, you can't expect the level of depth or quality from that as you could from any of the other choices you have listed.
On IK's website, you can look at the patch listings for each of the collections. You won't find much if any overlap between Cinematik and any of the other Tanks.
From your list, I notice there's no drums or percussion, other than what will be in World Instruments. It sounds like what you're trying to do with this Group Buy is cover a lot of "non-electronic music" bases so you have those all of those flavors handy. If that's the case, I think I'd recommend dropping SampleOB Xpander 2 from your list above and replacing it with Acoustic Drums 2. SampleOB sounds pretty nice - I was considering it myself - but if you're focusing on electronic music, you'll likely end up with a large number of other instruments that can do that Oberheim kind of sound. (Heck, just pick up a copy of Computer Music magazine and use ZebraCM.) Likewise, Electronic Drums might be right up your alley, but that being the case, it stands to reason that you'll end up eventually with more instruments that can do that sound better. In both cases, there's little reason to buy those Xpansion Tanks here and now; focus on the stuff that you don't expect to have from other sources.
You might also consider dropping Cinematik and adding in Hip Hop Instruments. That's a pretty well-rounded collection that has some flavors that might be more immediately useful to you.
P.S. eSoundz id 'ceejatec'
It seems to me that Cinematik Collection is a pretty speciality library. It's mostly pads, effects, and the like. It's hardly a "meat and potatoes" collection of sounds. I can't see any way that Cinematik could be seen as a replacement for, say, Bass Collection 2.
The only Xpansion Tank that could sort of claim to "cover the landscape as much as possible" by iself is Omnisynth, and as you say, you can't expect the level of depth or quality from that as you could from any of the other choices you have listed.
On IK's website, you can look at the patch listings for each of the collections. You won't find much if any overlap between Cinematik and any of the other Tanks.
From your list, I notice there's no drums or percussion, other than what will be in World Instruments. It sounds like what you're trying to do with this Group Buy is cover a lot of "non-electronic music" bases so you have those all of those flavors handy. If that's the case, I think I'd recommend dropping SampleOB Xpander 2 from your list above and replacing it with Acoustic Drums 2. SampleOB sounds pretty nice - I was considering it myself - but if you're focusing on electronic music, you'll likely end up with a large number of other instruments that can do that Oberheim kind of sound. (Heck, just pick up a copy of Computer Music magazine and use ZebraCM.) Likewise, Electronic Drums might be right up your alley, but that being the case, it stands to reason that you'll end up eventually with more instruments that can do that sound better. In both cases, there's little reason to buy those Xpansion Tanks here and now; focus on the stuff that you don't expect to have from other sources.
You might also consider dropping Cinematik and adding in Hip Hop Instruments. That's a pretty well-rounded collection that has some flavors that might be more immediately useful to you.
P.S. eSoundz id 'ceejatec'
Ceej
aka Chris Hillery
aka Chris Hillery
- KVRian
- 1068 posts since 25 Jul, 2007 from Calgary
I believe Squids said your original Esoundz login will work at downloadablesounds.dave dominey wrote:clicked redeem code that was added to esoundz account...
had to register on another site...
went back to redeem code page...
now says '5155 you cannot redeem this code several time'
that system works well hey
- KVRist
- 356 posts since 27 Nov, 2009 from Norway
Mine didnt, I had to use the "merge accounts" function. I guess thats what he meant. So people, do that before clicking on the redeem code!JavaJ wrote:I believe Squids said your original Esoundz login will work at downloadablesounds.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 512 posts since 19 Jan, 2008 from Texas - USA

IK Multimedia Xpansion Tank 2 Group Buy
Now 5X1! Currently at 3507 users. Need 493 more users for 6X1!
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/xtgroupbuy
and
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=4293
BBC
esoundz user: BarBeCutie or see epointz referral thread below for other users:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=epointz
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
So I'm the only one that's noticed this?mgpqa1 wrote:Was anyone able to choose any of the following three libraries for their bonus wild card library?
* Studiophonik Prelude sounds part 3: Basses
* Sonic Reality Bonus Disc for SampleTank 2.5
* SampleTank Rare Vintage Collection Vol. 1
There's links to these at the bottom, but there's no way to pick them unless I'm missing something?
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 1 May, 2003
I did not see rare vintage volume 1 ... I picked up rare instruments v1 electronic.. which is okand certainly does not fit it and only had like a 5 second preview and the description cutoff to boot.. So I may only go thru iks site for my next go round since there was not much else on the bonus list I could see wanting... I do have to say I dug the electric sitar and chapman stick..
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 1 May, 2003
This is what I thought I was getting,
This is a description from Squids link:
SampleTank Rare Vintage Collection Vol. 1
"This exclusive 1 gigabyte collection covers a range of popular vintage instruments from the 60's & 70's used by artists such as The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan, Yes, Genesis and many others. Featuring keyboards, synths, guitars, basses and drums many of which were owned by famous musicians of that era. Previously unreleased samples of the Prophet 10 that was used on Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Beach Boys' old B3 organ with white Leslie 122 cabinet, a vintage '62 Strat and P-Bass, drum kits in the style of Ringo, Bonham, Phil Collins and more! "
This is what I saw on the "List" :
Squids Rare Instruments Vol. 1 Electronic (MSRP:$229) Another exclusive only available here at esoundz! Sonic Reality's CEO Dave Kerzner (Aka "Squids") has put together a series of collections featuring some of the most unusual ha
that is what shows on the page.
but at the bottom there are links and that one is what I thought I was getting:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1997
If the guyz at esoundz could make it right I would gladly remove the one I downloaded from my pc.
My Esoundz name for epointz is Stephan326
This is a description from Squids link:
SampleTank Rare Vintage Collection Vol. 1
"This exclusive 1 gigabyte collection covers a range of popular vintage instruments from the 60's & 70's used by artists such as The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan, Yes, Genesis and many others. Featuring keyboards, synths, guitars, basses and drums many of which were owned by famous musicians of that era. Previously unreleased samples of the Prophet 10 that was used on Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Beach Boys' old B3 organ with white Leslie 122 cabinet, a vintage '62 Strat and P-Bass, drum kits in the style of Ringo, Bonham, Phil Collins and more! "
This is what I saw on the "List" :
Squids Rare Instruments Vol. 1 Electronic (MSRP:$229) Another exclusive only available here at esoundz! Sonic Reality's CEO Dave Kerzner (Aka "Squids") has put together a series of collections featuring some of the most unusual ha
that is what shows on the page.
but at the bottom there are links and that one is what I thought I was getting:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1997
If the guyz at esoundz could make it right I would gladly remove the one I downloaded from my pc.
My Esoundz name for epointz is Stephan326
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 1 May, 2003
Please don't think I am threatening.. I just have jampointz sitting at ik waiting to be used...
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
Okay, so I'm not seeing things after all. I filed a ticket.Stephan326 wrote:This is what I thought I was getting,
This is a description from Squids link:
SampleTank Rare Vintage Collection Vol. 1
"This exclusive 1 gigabyte collection covers a range of popular vintage instruments from the 60's & 70's used by artists such as The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan, Yes, Genesis and many others. Featuring keyboards, synths, guitars, basses and drums many of which were owned by famous musicians of that era. Previously unreleased samples of the Prophet 10 that was used on Pink Floyd's The Wall and the Beach Boys' old B3 organ with white Leslie 122 cabinet, a vintage '62 Strat and P-Bass, drum kits in the style of Ringo, Bonham, Phil Collins and more! "
This is what I saw on the "List" :
Squids Rare Instruments Vol. 1 Electronic (MSRP:$229) Another exclusive only available here at esoundz! Sonic Reality's CEO Dave Kerzner (Aka "Squids") has put together a series of collections featuring some of the most unusual ha
that is what shows on the page.
but at the bottom there are links and that one is what I thought I was getting:
http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1997
If the guyz at esoundz could make it right I would gladly remove the one I downloaded from my pc.
My Esoundz name for epointz is Stephan326
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Reverend Rhythm Reverend Rhythm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6041
- KVRAF
- 2859 posts since 21 Feb, 2003 from Woodstock, GA USA
When you guys get a resolution, please post it. It will help those who follow, and you know other people will have the same problem.
3527 at this moment!
3527 at this moment!
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 1 May, 2003
Will do!!!!!
- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
yup, he did.audiosabre wrote:Sorry if this has been asked before, but didn't Squidz mention a special bonus for people that bought from esoundz twice?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
I had a thought that it may be cool if we could have the option to sacrifice the 6x1 expansion (if it gets to 6x1, which looks likely) for one of the Squidz bonuses. Since I already have ten packs (+2 bonuses), the expansion tanks are looking less appealing. I wasn't crazy about the last two I downloaded, but I had to pick something. I don't use loops so they're out of the equation.
I wonder if others (especially those who entered multiple times) would find this a good alternative to picking another expansion tank 'just for the sake of it'
Don't take this too seriously, I'm already grateful for what I've got
John
I wonder if others (especially those who entered multiple times) would find this a good alternative to picking another expansion tank 'just for the sake of it'
Don't take this too seriously, I'm already grateful for what I've got
John
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- KVRian
- 1014 posts since 19 Apr, 2008
While that might be nice, it won't happen. The group buy is set up by IK Multimedia to be automated, which means that when 6x1 is reached everybody automatically gets an extra download in their IK user area. There is no way to change the setup without a lot of manual work on their part, which I don't think they are willing to take on, given the low cost of this GB and the large number of people involved.audiosabre wrote:I had a thought that it may be cool if we could have the option to sacrifice the 6x1 expansion (if it gets to 6x1, which looks likely) for one of the Squidz bonuses.
I recommend that you and others stop thinking of these as "loops". Think of them rather as virtual instruments with drum beats (and percussion) sampled in context. Each "loop" is actually a unique drum kit, which contains beats which have a room sound and an overlay of different beats (which are resonating in the way they would when being played together in a real kit). This allows for results which you don't get with an ordinary VI drumkits where each beat is sampled in isolation. It can allow you to create more realism in creating a groove. There doesn't have to be any looping involved at all.audiosabre wrote: I don't use loops so they're out of the equation.
Especially for the percussion, these Loop *Slices* are awesome. But man, you can invent some fantastic kick, snare and hi-hat grooves by starting from some of these things.
Maybe it is not everyone's cup of tea, since it can involve more work in creating your drum track. But with a little dedication you can create things which sound very authentic.
Somewhere in the background zedd
