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vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:48 pm

yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is 80s inspired synth pop

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:54 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Ogg Vorbis wrote:Intention? If it is intention, then is there no such thing as unintended music?

Or is it in the ear of the beholder...in other words, is music a way of hearing?
read this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noise-Music-His ... 035&sr=8-1

twice.

the problem with this book for me is it only covers the last century or so, whereas "noise music" has a much richer and longer history as im sure you know.
i think this is why it is often dismissed as a fad or as something rebellious in nature. when in fact the ideas behnd noise music as described within the book have been around longer than even before peter gorus* scribed the music of the spheres.

think primal.

* pythagorus.

dodokvr · Post by **dodokvr** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:54 pm

yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is contained in many a signature on KVR

Shocking.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Fri May 21, 2010 5:56 pm

yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is ....... {Some songs what I have wrote.....}

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:01 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:
yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is ....... {Some songs what I have wrote.....}

very good; thanx for listening

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:05 pm

Ogg Vorbis wrote:ear of the beholder...in other words, is music a way of hearing?

I strongly believe this, consider me a structuralist. The big clue for me is that we can roughly sketch cognitive processes involved with interpreting music - some ability to process musical phrases, some ability to follow rhythm, some ability to perceive pitch, and several other mechanics.

We can do a similar thing for use of language. Interestingly, in both cases we don't have anything like a full or complete understanding of every cognitive process involved, but we do have plenty of evidence that the general intent of the theory is correct **.

Here's a pretty interesting example:

So - for cases where one person can understand something as music while another hears it as noise, I think this is a specific example of a very intriguing question of how much cognition is shaped by environment and experience. There are clearly some things about music that are universal, and just as clearly some things that are more specific to a person's experience.

I don't really have a lot of answers beyond that. My favorite model is considering musical material the same way textual material is considered literature. This seems to me pretty practical and also leads to some pretty optimistic beliefs about what music can do for people.

** In truth, we don't even really need any explanation of the underlying brain hardware - the fact that we can reasonably agree that there's a distinction between music and noise exist for most people proves in itself that the brain hardware does exist. Even if it becomes very hard to reconcile what is music and noise amongst individuals

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:16 pm

dodokvr wrote:
yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is contained in many a signature on KVR
Shocking.

oh, so now you're jumping on the 'let's change his quote' bandwagon. Do I know you? Who the **** are you? Shock shock shocking

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:17 pm

Keith Moon explained it best.

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:20 pm

Music is organized noise.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:31 pm

jones-y wrote:Music is organized noise.

disorganised noise is often of far more interest.

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:43 pm

vurt wrote:
jones-y wrote:Music is organized noise.
disorganised noise is often of far more interest.

is that what they call death metal nowadays???

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:54 pm

phlendo wrote: They noise they make sounds like dying southern chickens to me...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:57 pm

yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is.......{insert current disliked genre}

FFS, IIRC the last "t" on this sub ended badly, fwiw. TC, ATB

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:58 pm

vurt wrote:
yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is 80s inspired synth pop

yellowfever · Post by **yellowfever** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:04 pm

hibidy wrote:
yellowfever wrote:Music is arranged to flow in a manner pleasing for the listener. Noise is.......{insert current disliked genre}
FFS, IIRC the last "t" on this sub ended badly, fwiw. TC, ATB

you and your sodding abbreviations; now what did you say??

What is the difference between music and noise? [years-dead slappyfight revived]