she's a maniac...maanniaacc

[someone called simon]

OK I just re-read your comments.

First, I told you those 3 repeated chords. I didnt think u would be talking about that bit as its so simple, and the next bit is actually semi-complicated...

So then you complained about my chord names, which if you read a little further you'd see I wrote the actual note names in each chord, note for note, each chord in order.

FFS, have you got ADD?

[Majestic290]

Simon that is not the part i'm talking about, ...i know the bass synth part is B, C#, D#, i already got that, I'm talking about the faster synth that's BEHIND THAT..it's played at a higher pitch and it's fast, i just want to know THAT chord progression.

If i'm not mistaken, it's F#, D#, but i'm not sure about the third note, might be A#, but i'm not sure..it changes up at the end of the progression. It sounds like it's bouncing or something, THAT Sound.

.and yes, i am ADD

[VicDiesel]

Simon that is not the part i'm talking about, ...i know the bass synth part is B, C#, D#, i already got that, I'm talking about the faster synth that's BEHIND THAT..it's played at a higher pitch and it's fast, i just want to know THAT chord progression.

That higher synth is just repeating F# E# (but you can call it F if you want). So that makes:

1. With a B in the bass that means B & Bflat5
2. With a C# in the bass that means C#4 & C#
3. With a D# in the bass that's D#min & D#2

Victor.

[sammy24]

I think that's basically right but there's a quick arpeggiated note in between--so

F# - B -E# (F) - B and again F#- B - E# - B

then F# - C# - E# - C# and again F# - C# - E#- C#

then F# - A# - E#- A# and again F# - A# - E#- A# then F# - A# - E# - A# - D# -A# -E# -A#

and then whole thing repeats.


What was confusing everyone (I think) was that that's not its own chord progression, it's a melody line, and therefore yes it does affect the harmony but the chords still the same. So everyone thought you wanted the chords instead of the melody.

[Majestic290]

Sammy, yes that's exactly what I wanted to know, VERY helpful.

What exactly is the difference between a chord progression and a melody line?


Here is my version:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/76411511ff01b518/

I can't believe how awesome these 80's synthpop melodies are, you can find gold digging through history. You'd NEVER find a melody/progression like that in todays music.

did the guy play this live? I had to edit the notes manually, it's just too damn fast lol

[paladium]

It's giorgio moroder of course , parts were sequenced on a synclavier, the synths are jupiter 8 and prophet 5
, and a linndrum doing 32th notes clap sound (the mechanical krr krrr),
i would say yes , any of todays chart music is inferior melodywise compared
to music from 70s /80s

[Majestic290]

what is it about that F key being used within a major B scale...i know this is some kind of music theory..but doesn't that create some type of tension. Going from F# to B, then to F, you probably expect it to go to G major instead.

how do you WRITE stuff like this, or do you jsut come across it accidently

[VicDiesel]

What exactly is the difference between a chord progression and a melody line?

Well, there is actually a softer pad instrument playing the chords, but mostly you hear the bass and the melody, and your ear infers the chords from that.

It's the same as in classical music: often there is no instrument that plays actual chords (for instance string quartets) but it's plenty clear from the melody lines what the chords are.

Victor.

[VicDiesel]

what is it about that F key being used within a major B scale..

It's not an F, it's an E#.

If you have a hard time thinking in five or so sharps, play a C chord and do a melody G-F#-G-F# et cetera. Same thing. That F# (or E# in the original) is just a meaningless note in between. Nothing to do with harmonies.

Victor.

[Km7]

It's called a neighbour tone.

[Jbravo]

oh I loved this track from the first time I heard it. Wish pop music was this clever nowadays *sigh*

[Majestic290]

It's called a neighbour tone.

thnx where can i learn more about that

80's music WAS clever bravoo..i'm bringing it back

[sammy24]

The E# is the raised 11th of that B chord. Remember we were talking about the extensions of a chord? Well if you take a B major triad and extend it fully, B is the root, D# is the third, F# is the 5th, A# is the major seventh, C# is the ninth, E# is the raised eleventh, G# is the 13th/6th. So that E# is a diatonic tone to the B chord.

If you put all those notes in a straight line instead of skipping by thirds, you get a B Lydian scale. Sorry if I'm getting complicated. Think of it another way, this part of the song is in the key of D# minor. Well, if you start a D# natural minor scale on B, you get the same thing as a B lydian scale. These scales have the exact same notes.

I guess you could make a case for it to be a lower neighbor tone (even though the melody skips after the E# to the B), but it is a diatonic tone to the chord, and could really be thought of here as a legitimate raised eleventh.

If you really want to know more about this stuff, you need to learn it slowly, step by step. Otherwise you end up with a whole lot of loose pieces of information without having an overall understanding! I do teach, so let me know if you're ever interested in taking some lessons. It's hard to explain an entire area in a few forum posts.

[jancivil]

.and yes, i am ADD

No excuse for your manners.
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