Other than that I class it as music of varying form.
What is the difference between music and noise? [years-dead slappyfight revived]
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- KVRist
- 407 posts since 23 Oct, 2006 from Northern New England
Graham Chapman, of Monty Python fame, once spoke about this back when I was in college (over 20 years ago now....):
Seems Chapman was a drunk, and used to hang out a fair bit with another one -- Keith Moon (of The Who fame, of course). As Chapman told the story, they were in Keith's hotel room one day, listing to a rehearsal tape of the band on Keith's new cassette player, at full volume.
The hotel manager came to the room and shouted "WILL YOU PLEASE TURN THAT NOISE OFF!!!" Without a word, Keith complied, shutting of the tape player, and the manager went away.
About an hour later, there was a load explosion -- one that took the door to Keith's hotel room clean off its hinges. The manager returned, this time demanding to know what the hell was going on.
Keith pointed at the now empty doorway. "THAT was noise, mate," he said. Picking up the cassette, he added, "THIS is The Who."
So there you have it. Difference between music and noise.

Seems Chapman was a drunk, and used to hang out a fair bit with another one -- Keith Moon (of The Who fame, of course). As Chapman told the story, they were in Keith's hotel room one day, listing to a rehearsal tape of the band on Keith's new cassette player, at full volume.
The hotel manager came to the room and shouted "WILL YOU PLEASE TURN THAT NOISE OFF!!!" Without a word, Keith complied, shutting of the tape player, and the manager went away.
About an hour later, there was a load explosion -- one that took the door to Keith's hotel room clean off its hinges. The manager returned, this time demanding to know what the hell was going on.
Keith pointed at the now empty doorway. "THAT was noise, mate," he said. Picking up the cassette, he added, "THIS is The Who."
So there you have it. Difference between music and noise.
"Enough Spyro Gyra and you're hoping you'll be killed in a knife fight."
-- Chris in the morning
-- Chris in the morning
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- KVRAF
- 2310 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Germany
I think there is no universal static and eternal definition to the question.
One point is:
The more often I want to hear the same acoustic events the more I think it's (good) music.
The less often I want to hear the same acoustic events the less I think it's (good) music.
But unfortunately this changes for everyone anytime.
As acoustic events flow in time so does every ones perception of that being music or not just with a lower frequency...
Probably the question can't be discussed and finally concluded - like taste...
One point is:
The more often I want to hear the same acoustic events the more I think it's (good) music.
The less often I want to hear the same acoustic events the less I think it's (good) music.
But unfortunately this changes for everyone anytime.
As acoustic events flow in time so does every ones perception of that being music or not just with a lower frequency...
Probably the question can't be discussed and finally concluded - like taste...
Best regards, TiUser
...and keep on jamming...
...and keep on jamming...
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1084 posts since 12 Sep, 2008 from Your basement
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1084 posts since 12 Sep, 2008 from Your basement
lol:Meffy wrote:One generation.Ogg Vorbis wrote:What is the difference between music and noise?
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
A generation is how long?Meffy wrote:One generation.Ogg Vorbis wrote:What is the difference between music and noise?
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
http://bit.ly/bmk4nrobojam wrote:3:19eduardo_b wrote:A generation is how long?Meffy wrote:One generation.Ogg Vorbis wrote:What is the difference between music and noise?
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
- Beware the Quoth
- 35445 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
then why ask?eduardo_b wrote:http://bit.ly/bmk4n
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 21348 posts since 26 Jul, 2005 from Gone
Post countwhyterabbyt wrote:then why ask?eduardo_b wrote:http://bit.ly/bmk4n
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
I wondered what Meffy considered a generation. I had to go look this up for myself because I'd read years ago that it was 33 years.robojam wrote:Post countwhyterabbyt wrote:then why ask?eduardo_b wrote:http://bit.ly/bmk4n
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Different species; my generation-span isn't the same as yours. Matters not, if you need to know the length of a generation and Donkey Tugger isn't around to provide the information, simply measure how long it takes between when it's music and when it's noise. For greater accuracy take several measurements and average them together.
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
Or, I could just do a few shots of Tres Generaciones tequila and take a nap.Meffy wrote:Different species; my generation-span isn't the same as yours. Matters not, if you need to know the length of a generation and Donkey Tugger isn't around to provide the information, simply measure how long it takes between when it's music and when it's noise. For greater accuracy take several measurements and average them together.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey