When Are We Going To See Logic/Garageband On The iPad?
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- KVRAF
- 2163 posts since 17 Jan, 2008
i would love to see that. even just garageband would be nice. would prefer that you can export MIDI though. I have some other sequencers on my phone, but I don't know them as well and it's hard to get up to speed when you play with the thing for 30 minutes at a time. got rebirth for my phone, but what a nightmare; sounds great, but you need a microscope to get anything done.
macbook pro 2.88 GHz Intel Core Duo, 10 gigs ram, 750GB HD, Logic Studio 9
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
you may be right- look at iMovie for iOS4. right now both logic and garage band are too mouse driven IMO to be viable on the iPad. There would need to be a significant interface overhaul. IT probably wouldnt be feasible for audio recording either since the built in mic has limited fidelity, but may be reasonable for recording some demos...
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
iPad like iPhone is for consumer applications, i.e. consume music or video or whatever.
Apple used to make their money providing tools for creating graphics and print layout etc. but at some point they looked around and decided they could make more money by providing hardware for consumers. And let's face it there will alwyas be more consumers than creators, so they may be right.
In any case, iPad is very strictly a platform for consumption, not creating.
Apple used to make their money providing tools for creating graphics and print layout etc. but at some point they looked around and decided they could make more money by providing hardware for consumers. And let's face it there will alwyas be more consumers than creators, so they may be right.
In any case, iPad is very strictly a platform for consumption, not creating.
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- KVRian
- 621 posts since 5 Aug, 2002 from United States
@wrench45us. yes, the iPad is primarily a consuming device, but it is great form creating as well. Already there are some good art, photography and writing apps, and a few music ones as well. It has only been out for two months. Give it some time and there will be great things available. I nave iPad for two months, and am very pleased. The Korg app is awesome, and rumors of A version of Reason (I will believe it when I see it).
Anyway, like any device the iPad is software driven, a year from now I am sure there will be some good options...
Anyway, like any device the iPad is software driven, a year from now I am sure there will be some good options...
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- KVRist
- 148 posts since 21 Nov, 2008
+1000wrench45us wrote:iPad like iPhone is for consumer applications, i.e. consume music or video or whatever.
Apple used to make their money providing tools for creating graphics and print layout etc. but at some point they looked around and decided they could make more money by providing hardware for consumers. And let's face it there will alwyas be more consumers than creators, so they may be right.
In any case, iPad is very strictly a platform for consumption, not creating.
that why i'm waiting september 2010 with the release of the slate EXOPC,
http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php
a true os able to run existing software like reason, live, usine, ...
2 usb port to connect audio inteface or even ilok or usb key, SD player
the ability to copy/paste files when you want without the need of an internet connection or proprietary software like itunes.
freedom vs comfort => I prefer freedom even if this exopc slate with its proprietary user interface seems comfortable too
all the hysteria around Ipad (mass media generate it) is just ridiculous, the way everybody try to convince the others that ipad have any utility is just funny. And to wait some software dev create the software we want is just boring when you know we can own a tablet with a usefull os able to run existing software.
korg ielectribe, intua beatmaker, ik product and all the musical apps on ipad are fun ... only fun ... and then nothing more.
the only usefull things about it is touch osc or any software controller you have on ipad
Ipad is just a new way to consume no more no less
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
9headshydra wrote:
that why i'm waiting september 2010 with the release of the slate EXOPC,
http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php
a true os able to run existing software like reason, live, usine, ...
2 usb port to connect audio inteface or even ilok or usb key, SD player
the ability to copy/paste files when you want without the need of an internet connection or proprietary software like itunes.
freedom vs comfort => I prefer freedom even if this exopc slate with its proprietary user interface seems comfortable too
Is windows freedom?!?!?!?!
Anyway most of the Windows apps (if any) is ready to be touch based, and if my small and not easy experience of trying to close windows on smal X in a touch based PC worth anything, then trying to move inside a small space like the DAWs and piano roll will be much, much worst.
Anyway what is stoping iPad from creating content too?
HW wise it is as capable of creating as a 10-7 years old PC. And at that time there was plenty of conten created on PCs.
SW wise it is being created, and some very good results already.
Sure your i7+w7 Intel solution does have a big lead, but their are not the only one on market anymore. These no MS PC does have a lot of potential imo.
Also that specs will only let you use some restricted SW (my netbook have those specs). And other OS (linux) will gave you much more bang for the buck, plus a overall greater experience in speed and the like.
Personally I cant wait for Slate based on ARM+ webOS/Android/... and the like to become cheap and more popular. I can create much more things in the bus with one of those than only at home with my desktop.
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- KVRian
- 621 posts since 5 Aug, 2002 from United States
9headshydra wrote:+1000wrench45us wrote:iPad like iPhone is for consumer applications, i.e. consume music or video or whatever.
Apple used to make their money providing tools for creating graphics and print layout etc. but at some point they looked around and decided they could make more money by providing hardware for consumers. And let's face it there will alwyas be more consumers than creators, so they may be right.
In any case, iPad is very strictly a platform for consumption, not creating.
that why i'm waiting september 2010 with the release of the slate EXOPC,
http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php
a true os able to run existing software like reason, live, usine, ...
2 usb port to connect audio inteface or even ilok or usb key, SD player
the ability to copy/paste files when you want without the need of an internet connection or proprietary software like itunes.
freedom vs comfort => I prefer freedom even if this exopc slate with its proprietary user interface seems comfortable too
all the hysteria around Ipad (mass media generate it) is just ridiculous, the way everybody try to convince the others that ipad have any utility is just funny. And to wait some software dev create the software we want is just boring when you know we can own a tablet with a usefull os able to run existing software.
korg ielectribe, intua beatmaker, ik product and all the musical apps on ipad are fun ... only fun ... and then nothing more.
the only usefull things about it is touch osc or any software controller you have on ipad
Ipad is just a new way to consume no more no less
Of course were not going to use it to produce everything from start to finish.... What we are talking about is using it as a tool to help us make tunes... and it ALREADY does that. I export from the ielectribe into reaper... great to set on the couch with the iPad and make a beat or two... import into Reaper and go. I also write letters on it (in Word format), but I would not use it to run my business. The iPad is a tool, and a great one. And since thousands are already CREATING content on it, then to say you cant's is absurd....
I do hope you enjoy your Windows tablet, but of course you could have bought a Windows tablet many years ago... Samsung Q1 is just one example. What makes the iPad great is that it is different, not just another copy of what has already been done over and over. I have no idea why the Windows tablets never caught on, but the iPad sure has.......
EDIT: And before I'm called an "Apple fanboy" and then my opinion dismissed.... I am Windows all the way. Tried Mac's briefly about 5 years ago and came running back to Windows... Windows 7 is IMHO the best OS ever made.... but, I do like Apple mobile products....
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
actually, content creation for iPad is coming... At the all things digital conference this was confirmed by steve jobs hisself. It probably wont be as open as it would on a pc, but it will get there. iMovie is a good first example...
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
What's wrong with fun? I make music for fun. There are thousands of people making music for fun. iPad is an excellent platform for catering to those type of creatives.9headshydra wrote:korg ielectribe, intua beatmaker, ik product and all the musical apps on ipad are fun ... only fun ... and then nothing more.
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
With NDAs,paying to develop and all kinds of ridiculous restrictions on what you can and cannot do i'd say that's the understatement of the year.Stupid American Pig wrote: It probably wont be as open as it would on a pc,
I seriously doubt that.Stupid American Pig wrote:but it will get there.
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- KVRian
- 1343 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Netherlands
Overexaggeration of the year.jupiter8 wrote:With NDAs,paying to develop and all kinds of ridiculous restrictions on what you can and cannot do i'd say that's the understatement of the year.Stupid American Pig wrote: It probably wont be as open as it would on a pc,
For developers there are no NDAs, no excessive limitations and restrictions (unless you're directly competing with Apple themselves, e.g. Google), review process has improved considerably (approval within 3 days and updates within a day) and the entry-ticket is only $99.
The benefits for devs and users, on the other hand, are huge!
People should really stop repeating all the nonsense hearsay they pick up in uninformed blogposts on random internet sites.
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- angelboy
- 4586 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus
I am not convinced by tablets yet. Any tablet, not just the iPad. The form factor seems awkward and all wrong to me (doesn't fit in a pocket, you have to carry it around in a bag or something, which kinda defeats the purpose), the devices themselves are underpowered etc.
Interestingly, I can see a tablet being useful as a device to be used at home. As a controller for DAWs or as MIDI/OSC controllers, they could be magnificent. Why get a Lemur (for example) when you can just get a tablet and load a program on it?
But I can't see it being useful for much else. OK, you can watch movies on the go. That's not a revelation, that's been around for ages and a decent netbook can offer that facility too, while offering hundreds of more uses. As a music player, you know what, just get an iPod
(or a Sony player, the difference in sound quality is real).
Anyway, tablets seem like a fad to me. A two-million-selling (with sales increasing by the day, obviously) fad for Apple maybe, but still not really useful in a way that a smartphone can be.
Boring. I won't be getting a tablet until you can fold them and put them in your pocket or something. Until then, mark my words: fad.
Interestingly, I can see a tablet being useful as a device to be used at home. As a controller for DAWs or as MIDI/OSC controllers, they could be magnificent. Why get a Lemur (for example) when you can just get a tablet and load a program on it?
But I can't see it being useful for much else. OK, you can watch movies on the go. That's not a revelation, that's been around for ages and a decent netbook can offer that facility too, while offering hundreds of more uses. As a music player, you know what, just get an iPod
Anyway, tablets seem like a fad to me. A two-million-selling (with sales increasing by the day, obviously) fad for Apple maybe, but still not really useful in a way that a smartphone can be.
Boring. I won't be getting a tablet until you can fold them and put them in your pocket or something. Until then, mark my words: fad.
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- KVRAF
- 1596 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
Why cant you use them in anything, like a netbook?TristezaOrange wrote: But I can't see it being useful for much else. OK, you can watch movies on the go. That's not a revelation, that's been around for ages and a decent netbook can offer that facility too, while offering hundreds of more uses. As a music player, you know what, just get an iPod(or a Sony player, the difference in sound quality is real).
Sure some interfaces will need work but if you can use a netbook, why not a slate? You have a mause like interface and a (virtual) keyboard, what else you need?
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
maybe, maybe not. This doesnt have to be a religious argument though. Buy it or Dontjupiter8 wrote:With NDAs,paying to develop and all kinds of ridiculous restrictions on what you can and cannot do i'd say that's the understatement of the year.Stupid American Pig wrote: It probably wont be as open as it would on a pc,I seriously doubt that.Stupid American Pig wrote:but it will get there.