R.I.P., Macintosh?

[mcnoone]

I dislike Apple because they stole something precious from me and tried to blackmail me into buying a computer I didn't want to get it back. They have always been arrogant and condescending but that was the final straw.

stole= bought (completely legal)
blackmail=wrong (no one made into buying anything against your will in this case)
arrogant and condescending = (other than those mac-bashing regular posters, I have yet to find similar behavior within the Apple computer.)

You do know that Foxconn (ipad iphone, mac mini) also make computers for Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Sony, the Wii and the Xbox among others? Inventec (macbooks) also builds for Hewlett-Packard, Toshiba, Acer, and Fujitsu.

It is irrelevant what company puts it together.
It only matters who designed it, and what it's design is.
(In this case it's design is better than any of the other non-Apple companies listed in that text.)...uuuhhh imo.

The only thing special about a Mac anymore is the premium you pay to be tied to a controlled, limited software market that they may discontinue or pull out from under you without warning anytime. I've seen them do it. I'll never trust them again.

Some people believe that having more control over one's own vision, can help in acquiring that vision easier, than with many outside influences that will only distort the vision.
Limited software is in balance with the market share Apple has.
MAY...discontinue a product? This also goes for any company in the world.
"Have seen them do it before". How can you have seen before, what "may" happen. This just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

I don't go out of my way to bash Apple but I don't pass up too many opportunities if they come along.

Your actions are contradicting your words here.

I'm not saying Apple is the greatest and Steve is god.
I'm also not saying that Apple are thieves and blackmailers, and Steve is satan.
I'am saying that it's a good computer that I enjoy using.
If you don't, then don't buy it. That's the only statement you need to make.
BTW The thread title and attached article are completely misleading and false on all accounts. In fact, I would say the opposite to be true.

[hibidy]

*reaches for the popcorn*

I will say this, chances are it's a deal. Iphones/pads are FAR more important at this stage of the game.

[UltraJv]

I remeber this coming up when Mac owners were saying that Apple would never use an Intel CPU. Change happens.

[mcnoone]

Apple didnt give us Windows 7 attall.

I was referring to the competition in the market pushing Microsoft to create a better OS. Not saying Apple created Windows 7, because that would imply that Apple failed at making a good OS.

As for the other nonsense.
I believe the companies mentioned were contracted for the work.
Not aquired after the work was done.
Either way it wouldn't matter, as most consumers don't care in what way it was put together, but how well it was put together. In the case of mac osx. I'd say it was put together very well. It's all I need to know.

[UltraJv]

Apple didnt give us Windows 7 attall.

I was referring to the competition in the market pushing Microsoft to create a better OS. Not saying Apple created Windows 7, because that would imply that Apple failed at making a good OS.

As for the other nonsense.
I believe the companies mentioned were contracted for the work.
Not aquired after the work was done.
Either way it wouldn't matter, as most consumers don't care in what way it was put together, but how well it was put together. In the case of mac osx. I'd say it was put together very well. It's all I need to know.

No one was contracted for the work. They are existing products, Apple simply used them. They were not made for Apple. BSD Unix is free to anyone. They didnt make any OS. I can give them credit for putting a nice shiny GUI on top. That is all.

[dhalfen]

*reaches for the popcorn*

I will say this, chances are it's a deal. Iphones/pads are FAR more important at this stage of the game.

How true, how true!

Actually, Apple is merely "shoring up" its mobile line at full speed for the present, and this is obviously going to detract from some aspects of the actual "computer development" end. The computers aren't being "ignored," per se, but the company is trying to blur the line between the "mobile" and "desktop" ends of the computing universe. The "blurring" isn't going to be successful unless they (and other companies) do as much as is presently possible to "cram the good stuff" into smaller, more efficient, and more portable form factors.

Case in point: My current rig is an iMac. I LOVE it, but it's not a tower, and I hold no illusions regarding the shortcomings inherent in the differences. BUT I would LOVE to see them cram this thing into an iPad-sized device. Clearly, such cramming will not happen for several years yet, but they have to start somewhere.

[dhalfen]

I remeber this coming up when Mac owners were saying that Apple would never use an Intel CPU. Change happens.

And I'm DANG glad it did!

(I would have honestly said, "It'll be a cold day in Hell..." at the time, but one subsequent look at Intel's then-current "roadmap" compared to Freescale/Motorola's made it a no-brainer. I just can't believe that their graphics still relatively suck... They get so much right, but that aspect continues to elude them.)

[tomg]

It is not looking good for the Mac. The Mac line is already down to five models but I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple drop the mini and entry level Macbook next year.

Phone Fight!
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/06/12/phone-fight.html

Laptops and desktops aren't going away overnight, of course. But a glance at Apple's revenue by product line shows just how much the times have already changed. Sales of Macs are slowing while revenue from the iPhone is booming, up from $631 million in 2007 to an estimated $21 billion this year. Next year, mobile devices will represent roughly half of Apple's total business—and deliver twice the sales of Macs, according to RBC Capital Markets.

[UltraJv]

Another take on the same subject :

"The transformation of PC to new form factors like the tablet is going to make some people uneasy"


"Of course, when professing the imminent death of the PC as we know it, Jobs is also telling Apple customers that Macs are a thing of the past."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-PC-I ... 4440.shtml

[VitaminD]

It is not looking good for the Mac. The Mac line is already down to five models but I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple drop the mini and entry level Macbook next year.

Phone Fight!
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/06/12/phone-fight.html

Laptops and desktops aren't going away overnight, of course. But a glance at Apple's revenue by product line shows just how much the times have already changed. Sales of Macs are slowing while revenue from the iPhone is booming, up from $631 million in 2007 to an estimated $21 billion this year. Next year, mobile devices will represent roughly half of Apple's total business—and deliver twice the sales of Macs, according to RBC Capital Markets.

Perhaps they'd make more revenue on their desktop line if they lowered the price, closer to a Windows PC's.

[risome]

The ipad is cool but it is designed to consume not create.The Mac on the other hand is a creative device as are pc's.It seems to me the I-Pad is designed with only one dominant imperative; to be a portal to buy stuff.
The I-Pads reason for being is to serve as a mobile access point to the Apple app-store and I-tunes.
The I-Pad doesn't DO anything apart from allow you to buy things to consume (apps, movies, music, ebooks).
The I-Pad has no other directly intended purpose.I wish my iphone was too big for my pocket and couldn't make phone calls.Thats not to say that users wont find interesting things to do with the iPad.
Users are smart. They always find their own creative uses for things above and beyond what developers intent.
But the fact remains that the I-Pad is not designed nor intended to do interesting creative, not intended to generate things; only consume them
It has been designed to SELL things.
Its a product designed to service a retail business model.The I-Pad is a cynical, narrow minded, closed perspective exercise in marketing and lowest-common denominator selling.
The I-Pad is not a Web2.0 technology.
The I-Pad is a backward step away from creative engagement and back to passive consumption.
And Apple will sell millions of them.
But not to me.
I have a Mac. A device designed for nothing and everything in particular.
And thats the best thing about it....
I live in Web 2.0. I chose to create not just consume.
Mac rip indeed

[UltraJv]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... atment-ftc

[tehlord]

The I-Pads reason for being is to serve as a mobile access point to the Apple app-store and I-tunes.
The I-Pad doesn't DO anything apart from allow you to buy things to consume (apps, movies, music, ebooks).

Worthy of bullet points.

I'd also say it was created because people want it. Even I do ffs!

[kilon]

Oh boy that reminds me the "JAVA IS DEAD" headlines, 5 years ago and still Java reigns supreme.

Let me get my popcorn first, this better than reality tv.

[UltraJv]

I used to have Atari 520ST. I remember guys at work saying that it was ok but the PC was standard. I laughed and had "mine is better than yours" discussions with Amiga owners. Both have come to pass. As have Zilog and CPM. Things change and its all a matter of time. Jobs has decided that the future is touchscreen/tablet, which is fine. What matters is how he makes the change and how the existing Mac lineup goes. looking at the past - I think its going to be a bloodbath with loyal Mac owners left stranded.