One-Synth-Challenge 17 ... de la Mancha's 'Basic64'

[tattiemannie]

Welcome to OSC gravejester ..

Sorry, but here's the part of the rules in connection with your query ...

..... Important!......
Other than the hosts native EQ,
All Fx used must .....
**be freeware, and easily available via download.
**generally usable in a wide range of hosts

So, you cant use Fruity fx.

... I sympathise ... I also use FL, and it would be nice to use the native fx, but because they cant be used in other hosts, they are out.

[gravejester]

Welcome to OSC gravejester ..

Sorry, but here's the part of the rules in connection with your query ...

..... Important!......
Other than the hosts native EQ,
All Fx used must .....
**be freeware, and easily available via download.
**generally usable in a wide range of hosts

So, you cant use Fruity fx.

... I sympathise ... I also use FL, and it would be nice to use the native fx, but because they cant be used in other hosts, they are out.

Thanks.. does that mean that I can't even use the Fruity Parametric EQ2, or is that considered a native EQ?

[V'ger]

Isn't Soundgoodizer the same as You Wa Shock! ?

[gravejester]

Isn't Soundgoodizer the same as You Wa Shock! ?

Good find. Thanks! I will try that instead of Soundgoodizer

[tattiemannie]

does that mean that I can't even use the Fruity Parametric EQ2, or is that considered a native EQ?

Thats a good question! ... If I take what I 'meant' in the rules, the answer is no, but with reference to my 'wording' of the rules, I dont have a leg to stand on! .... So, I think I would on this occasion have to 'let it go' .... changing rules, or wording thereof mid-comp is a big 'no-no'.

But thanks for pointing up this 'grey area' ... I will take note and ensure that I clean up the definition of native EQ in the next comp.
Just to clarify, my reasoning for wishing to rule out fruity parametric is that it is a plugin which cannot be used in a wide range of hosts, whereas the channel and master bus eq is integral to the host.

In this case dont see use of fruity parametric brings any unfair advantage as there are many excellent freeware eq plugs which are of at least equal quality, so on this occasion, I see no point in asking you to remove it and use something else.

good luck with your track!

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

I've been wondering about this with regards to the Renoise Filter. Lately i've been employing the Renoise Filter a lot; but also figure everyone else has access to the same sort of thing.

It's just that Renoise's built-in DSPs seem to take a minimum of CPU.

(maybe you could call me 'cheater mcblitz' or something... just don't call me late for dinner)

So, should we ride the straight and narrow regarding host effects?

[tattiemannie]

It's a difficult one Mrblitz000, when you load a track in reaper for example, there is no EQ ... so plug has to be used, whereas, in FL, there is eq integral to each channel without loading a vst.

The renoise filter sounds similar to old versions of madtracker .... before bass, mid and treble controls were incorporated into channels .... and really, the DSPs, although handy, were/are nothing earthshattering, but yeah, cpu friendly.

I think when it comes to EQ, there's not a lot to get too hung up about, and whether I tidy up the rule, or open it up completely so that 'native EQ' includes EQ plugs which only work in particular hosts, no-one is really gonna care an awful lot .... I dont think anyone is using a host which cannot access good quality EQ whether native or generic freeware vst, and if any host does have a plug that does things that others dont, then we are almost certainly looking at features which 'transform sounds to the extent ......'

Be interesting to hear what others think, but with most synths having integral filters, and it being possible in many hosts to eq a signal on its channel, on it's group send/aux channels, and again at the master stage, .... this is prob not a contentious issue ....

But cheers again to gravejester for flagging this up .... that is after all why I asked "if in doubt, gimme a shout" .... if things are gonna get changed, it's always better out of prior discussion than out of the pain of hindsight

[Mac of BIOnighT]

As far as EQ is concerned, I don't really think it makes any difference at all which one you're using - eq is just eq, after all

[batgab]

I agree with Tat and Mac. I seriously doubt that any particular e.q. is going to make or break an OSC recording. Now, if you're gonna stack 5 e.q.'s in series and have each one surgically cut or pass a 0.1 Hz-wide band for, uh, musical effect, that might be a different story. But general - or even fairly aggressive - e.q. on individual tracks, busses and overall mixes can be done with freebie VSTs or native e.q. without compromising fairness, IMHO.

[tattiemannie]

OK, so now that issue appears to be settled, how about we see some submissions???

[gravejester]

My song is more or less finished, but I need to change my FL native effects with freeware ones before I can submit it.

[tattiemannie]

Good stuff gravejester .. best of luck with that

... give a shout if you have any difficulty finding an appropriate replacement ... I'm sure folks will help

[ouroboros]

Is it me or is there a small bug: when the arp is selected "XL" it latches on?

[RunBeerRun]

Congratulations on the sticky!

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

yay, sticky!

ouroboros: "Is it me or is there a small bug: when the arp is selected "XL" it latches on?"

I hadn't noticed. By 'latching on' do you mean that the thing stops arpeggiating, and instead will hold onto a certain note?