R.I.P., Macintosh?

[jupiter8]

i'm not sure i understand what you are saying in the second paragraph.......

Wasn't really important,just something i had on my mind. I often see people second guessing them selves (I use FLStudio,should i switch for more pro result or may favourite:Doeas any famous producers use xxxx) and in the process they waste a lot of money and time for no reason other than looking cool in the eyes of others.

But on the other hand one should avoid being so stubborn as to not see a "good thing" when/if one materializes. That's more of a life lesson than a DAW lesson i guess.

as for your last paragraph, i guess it sucks to be a developer, huh

Only problem is,it affects you too as a user. They waste time updating stuff for no reason that could have been spent elsewhere. Bug hunting,algorithm refinements,new products etc etc.

Here's one developers not so subtle's opinion on the subject:
[quote"Developer we call X"]In all seriousness, we've decided, in the interests of not going out and kidnapping the first Apple employees we find and forcing them to mine salt for a couple years, that we will forgo releasing anything in 64-bit on the Apple side of things for a little while. Shit is in some serious drama up in that bitch right now, with the massive bloated pile of failsauce that is Logic Audio leading the way, so we're gonna just let sleeping dogs lie for as long as we can. [/quote]

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

i'm not sure i understand what you are saying in the second paragraph.......

Wasn't really important,just something i had on my mind. I often see people second guessing them selves (I use FLStudio,should i switch for more pro result or may favourite:Doeas any famous producers use xxxx) and in the process they waste a lot of money and time for no reason other than looking cool in the eyes of others.

But on the other hand one should avoid being so stubborn as to not see a "good thing" when/if one materializes. That's more of a life lesson than a DAW lesson i guess.

as for your last paragraph, i guess it sucks to be a developer, huh

Only problem is,it affects you too as a user. They waste time updating stuff for no reason that could have been spent elsewhere. Bug hunting,algorithm refinements,new products etc etc.

Here's one developers not so subtle's opinion on the subject:
[quote"Developer we call X"]In all seriousness, we've decided, in the interests of not going out and kidnapping the first Apple employees we find and forcing them to mine salt for a couple years, that we will forgo releasing anything in 64-bit on the Apple side of things for a little while. Shit is in some serious drama up in that bitch right now, with the massive bloated pile of failsauce that is Logic Audio leading the way, so we're gonna just let sleeping dogs lie for as long as we can.

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re: the first point...i see......unfortunately, it's just the way...places like this forum offer up so many opportunities for that kind of thinking, though....

as for the developer thing...i can understand, it's frustrating, but from a consumer point of view, it will likely end up looking bad on the company in question.....

this developer may have a point if all others are finding the same...i'm not saying they aren't justified, anyway.....the thing is if you are the only developer digging their heals in, how long are customers gonna wait around , especially when yours is the only plugin left in the folder not to have supplied 64 compatibility ??

i'm pretty sure i have read many posters asking for software alternatives for products that they own that haven't followed suit and provided updates

they'd better have a hell of a unique product

*** disclaimer...i don't really know much about 64bit as i have no need for it at the moment, so please excuse my naivety....i'm just giving my opinion at 'face-value'...if running in bridge mode is not even the slightest compromise, they might be able to whether it, also

[Kriminal]

Perhaps my price is "too high" for this bunch. A lot of people on KVR are very cheap and won't buy until the price is bare bone minimum.

you shouldnt have problem selling it elsewhere then should you

[jupiter8]

this developer may have a point if all others are finding the same...i'm not saying they aren't justified, anyway.....the thing is if you are the only developer digging their heals in, how long are customers gonna wait around , especially when yours is the only plugin left in the folder not to have supplied 64 compatibility ??

i'm pretty sure i have read many posters asking for software alternatives for products that they own that haven't followed suit and provided updates

they'd better have a hell of a unique product

*** disclaimer...i don't really know much about 64bit as i have no need for it at the moment, so please excuse my naivety....i'm just giving my opinion at 'face-value'...if running in bridge mode is not even the slightest compromise, they might be able to whether it, also

Maybe that one wasn't such a great example but at least it shows that developing for Apple could be a bit smoother.

And yeah,that doesn't excuse them for doing a 64 bit version but i think your seeing this the wrong way. What if they didn't have to go thru all these hoops just to make a plugin ? 64 bit requires a rewrite no matter what platform you're on.

To me it seems like Apple breaks backward compability on a regular basis forcing developers to devote time to nothing more than complying to Apples latest whim. It doesn't add any functionality or enhanced user experience. It's just wasted time that could have been spent on more important things.
See the Tiger->Leopard->Snow Leopard transitions. Major drama for what ?

[TristezaOrange]

how much software is still backwards compatible with windows '95..

Erm... a LOT?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

this developer may have a point if all others are finding the same...i'm not saying they aren't justified, anyway.....the thing is if you are the only developer digging their heals in, how long are customers gonna wait around , especially when yours is the only plugin left in the folder not to have supplied 64 compatibility ??

i'm pretty sure i have read many posters asking for software alternatives for products that they own that haven't followed suit and provided updates

they'd better have a hell of a unique product

*** disclaimer...i don't really know much about 64bit as i have no need for it at the moment, so please excuse my naivety....i'm just giving my opinion at 'face-value'...if running in bridge mode is not even the slightest compromise, they might be able to whether it, also

Maybe that one wasn't such a great example but at least it shows that developing for Apple could be a bit smoother.

And yeah,that doesn't excuse them for doing a 64 bit version but i think your seeing this the wrong way. What if they didn't have to go thru all these hoops just to make a plugin ? 64 bit requires a rewrite no matter what platform you're on.

To me it seems like Apple breaks backward compability on a regular basis forcing developers to devote time to nothing more than complying to Apples latest whim. It doesn't add any functionality or enhanced user experience. It's just wasted time that could have been spent on more important things.
See the Tiger->Leopard->Snow Leopard transitions. Major drama for what ?

i still don't get it.....

i mean i understand the frustration...it must be a right c**t, but no one is forcing them

if a rewrite is necessary anyways, then what gives...it seems their issue is with logic pro, not the os anyways...yet another case of , one company digging their heels in when others just get on with it...i'm sure that the other companies are also groaning under their breath but they just get on with it...thats what staying in business is all about, non ??

as for tiger>leopard>snow leopard....i did have SL installed for a while, but returned to leopard just to be sure....i just did a test run cuz i bought it on the day of release

i have to say that, as a consumer, my apple experience got better with each of those upgrades...and that's what's important, right...regardless of the drama behind the scenes, my experience with my computer got a lot better.....i did wait about 18 months before installing leopard , though....i do understand the need to not be at the bleeding edge, to hold onto my marbles

as for apples latest 'whim'...do you really believe money gets diverted within apple to do spmething for no reason ??...i would guess that even if the reason isn't so apparent it most definitely exists..why would a company break backwards compatibility for nothing ??

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

how much software is still backwards compatible with windows '95..things move on....

Erm... a LOT?

no....i was asking the question.... :D

oh well, that's cool...windows '98 was great

[TristezaOrange]

how much software is still backwards compatible with windows '95..things move on....

Erm... a LOT?

no....i was asking the question.... :D

oh well, that's cool...windows '98 was great

Hehe, I know.

TBH, I never had any problems with a 95 program working in any subsequent version of Windows. I'm still playing DOS games on my Vista PC. Other people may have different experiences, but seriously, virtually ALL of my legacy programs work fine.

[justin3am]

Oh well... I love my Apple computers and OSX but it wouldn't take me more than a day to find a replacement if I couldn't use them anymore.

Not that I put much stock in the editorial from the OP. I'm just being realistic.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Oh well... I love my Apple computers and OSX but it wouldn't take me more than a day to find a replacement if I couldn't use them anymore.

Not that I put much stock in the editorial from the OP. I'm just being realistic.

absolutely....i could learn a thing or two about being so succinct

[guitarzan]

Oh well... I love my Apple computers and OSX but it wouldn't take me more than a day to find a replacement if I couldn't use them anymore.

Not that I put much stock in the editorial from the OP. I'm just being realistic.

absolutely....i could learn a thing or two about being so succinct

OK, great! We got that settled....Macintosh is toast....moving right along...

[jens]

TBH, I never had any problems with a 95 program working in any subsequent version of Windows.

just for the record: that would be upwards compatible though...

[Download SOphist]

Not that I put much stock in the editorial from the OP. I'm just being realistic.

this is the internetz, we no need realizm in here!!!

[justin3am]

there's an onion on my belt.

Which was the style of the time.

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say dickety because the Kaiser had stolen our word twenty...

[Download SOphist]

i still laugh to that one...