Good stuff.Kim (esoundz) wrote:My plugin sounds like a plugin, so I want to add more plugins to make it sound less like a plugin.zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.
-Kim.
Are there any plug-ins that can help make Amplitube sound more like a tube amp?
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- KVRian
- 1085 posts since 3 Aug, 2005 from Chicago
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 31 Jul, 2005
Put a tube preamp in front of the guitar plug:
http://www.mcrow.net/Preamp%20Emulator%20VST.htm
http://www.mcrow.net/Preamp%20Emulator%20VST.htm
- KVRAF
- 14440 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
DWL....lolzerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.
my favourite saturation plugin by far is soundtoys decapatitor.
rsp
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- KVRian
- 1305 posts since 30 Jan, 2004
I have this - it's an amazing plug.awesome-force wrote:I've heard this is good for tube distortion effects (I've not tried it, It's fairly cheap though):
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3557.html
I don't use it on everything, but for what it does, it's damn good.
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Just got home from rehearsal.
Since not all the guys could make it I didn't bring my own rig, used the singer's JMP 2203 instead which doesn't really break up at those modest levels.
So I went guitar > Zendrive > cleanish Marshall, what a great tone !
All the overdrive came from the pedal, the 2203 only amplified it.
What a waste of a wonderful amp, but hey, it did the job gracefully, Keef would've approved, I'm sure.
Nothing's gonna stop you from trying that approach with ampsims, but make sure to choose a pedal that's built to turn a clean amp into a crunchy Marshall or whatever, not one of the great "boost your amp till it waves the white flag" variety.
Other good examples include the old Marshall Guv'nor or Drivemaster pedals, the Wampler Plextortion type stuff, Box Of Rock, Sansamp and many others.
Not ideal are Tubescreamers, boosters of all types, Boss Blues Driver, Marshall Bluesbreaker and so on.
Ymmv,
susiwong
Since not all the guys could make it I didn't bring my own rig, used the singer's JMP 2203 instead which doesn't really break up at those modest levels.
So I went guitar > Zendrive > cleanish Marshall, what a great tone !
All the overdrive came from the pedal, the 2203 only amplified it.
What a waste of a wonderful amp, but hey, it did the job gracefully, Keef would've approved, I'm sure.
Nothing's gonna stop you from trying that approach with ampsims, but make sure to choose a pedal that's built to turn a clean amp into a crunchy Marshall or whatever, not one of the great "boost your amp till it waves the white flag" variety.
Other good examples include the old Marshall Guv'nor or Drivemaster pedals, the Wampler Plextortion type stuff, Box Of Rock, Sansamp and many others.
Not ideal are Tubescreamers, boosters of all types, Boss Blues Driver, Marshall Bluesbreaker and so on.
Ymmv,
susiwong
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- KVRian
- 1314 posts since 7 Aug, 2009 from Baltimore, MD
YES. It's one of my favourites, too!zvenx wrote:my favourite saturation plugin by far is soundtoys decapatitor.
I also have to give a nod to D16's Redoptor & Devastor - at the higher-quality settings (which, of course, gobble up more CPU), they sound amazing!
But Decapitator has 5 overall settings that offer significantly-different flavours of saturation, and it likes to be pushed (er, punished
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100
- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
I was just to post the same but there you go/an enourmous PLUS ONEsusiwong wrote:Just got home from rehearsal.
Since not all the guys could make it I didn't bring my own rig, used the singer's JMP 2203 instead which doesn't really break up at those modest levels.
So I went guitar > Zendrive > cleanish Marshall, what a great tone !![]()
All the overdrive came from the pedal, the 2203 only amplified it.
What a waste of a wonderful amp, but hey, it did the job gracefully, Keef would've approved, I'm sure.![]()
Nothing's gonna stop you from trying that approach with ampsims, but make sure to choose a pedal that's built to turn a clean amp into a crunchy Marshall or whatever, not one of the great "boost your amp till it waves the white flag" variety.
Other good examples include the old Marshall Guv'nor or Drivemaster pedals, the Wampler Plextortion type stuff, Box Of Rock, Sansamp and many others.
Not ideal are Tubescreamers, boosters of all types, Boss Blues Driver, Marshall Bluesbreaker and so on.
Ymmv,
susiwong
and if you don't mind installing pluggo runtime Tri-Tone Digital's ColorTone Pro or Free with some decent impulses of mic pre's, channel strips and static EQ capture plus even just flat except a transformer in circuit can help post-amp/cab plug-in(s)
Try everything and anything that sounds logical or remotely 'that might just work' advice/tips. Like recording using tape and hardisk together can be a blessing for exploiting the best of both and thats not too disimilar to what results you can get applying the same to guitar amplification, bass amplification i have found after alot of trial and error and dissatisfaction FWIW to anyone. Susiwong will attest to this and has been doing this longer than i have yet our method behind what i have been told is 'madness' is essentially the same
Nekro
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
A little bit of madness can go a long way towards a nice, rubber padded home !NEKRO.MACHINE wrote:Try everything and anything that sounds logical or remotely 'that might just work' advice/tips. Like recording using tape and hardisk together can be a blessing for exploiting the best of both and thats not too disimilar to what results you can get applying the same to guitar amplification, bass amplification i have found after alot of trial and error and dissatisfaction FWIW to anyone. Susiwong will attest to this and has been doing this longer than i have yet our method behind what i have been told is 'madness' is essentially the same
Nekro

Lol,
susiwong
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- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
LOL - Its not far from the truth a few years ago/still on the verge 
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- KVRAF
- 18377 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Hm, maybe I can make a Fedders emulation... let me download a license of Synthedit...Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I just tried that. I had several instances running and my room suddenly got really hot from all the tube warmth being generated by Amplitube. Can someone recommend a plugin to cool things down?zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.
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- KVRAF
- 2331 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Outer Bongolia
No doubt that works great, susiwong, in fact, that's how I ended up with two of those orignal TubeMan pedals about ten years ago (I read in a post you have one of those too), only then it was 'What can I do to make my POD Pro sound more like a tube amp?'susiwong wrote:...So I went guitar > Zendrive > cleanish Marshall, what a great tone !...Nothing's gonna stop you from trying that approach with ampsims...
- KVRAF
- 18377 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Actually, I like and use Redoptor a lot. Is good. Just another tool for another tone though. Most of the time I'm so tickled with the sound I get from AT3 that nothing else is even considered.awesome-force wrote:I've heard this is good for tube distortion effects (I've not tried it, It's fairly cheap though):
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3557.html
Just in case, I picked up a Blackstar HT-5 Dual Distortion. I like it a lot. Sounds great in front of Amplitube. I tried it's "emulated out" and it blows chunks, but as a tube distortion box it's nice.
Is it tubeier? Is it better?
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
What he said. Stacked, of course.Kim (esoundz) wrote:My plugin sounds like a plugin, so I want to add more plugins to make it sound less like a plugin.zerocrossing wrote:Well, the answer is quite obvious, no? If AmpliTube sounds like a tube amp, running two instances one after the other will sound twice as much as a tube amp. Just keep stacking instances until you have the tube sound you want.
-Kim.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Lol, I hear you about the Tubeman.guitarzan wrote:No doubt that works great, susiwong, in fact, that's how I ended up with two of those orignal TubeMan pedals about ten years ago (I read in a post you have one of those too), only then it was 'What can I do to make my POD Pro sound more like a tube amp?'susiwong wrote:...So I went guitar > Zendrive > cleanish Marshall, what a great tone !...Nothing's gonna stop you from trying that approach with ampsims...In the end, the TubeMen stayed and the POD Pro is long gone...Really, a preamp or good pedal into a well tweaked group of dynamics plug ins and speaker cab IR loaders, maybe some ambience plugs, is what ended up sounding more like a tube amp to me! But I do like amp sims for their convenience...they still need work, though!
The one I currently own is my fourth actually, I buy one, after a while I sell it because "it's nothing special anyway", a few months later I miss that Swiss Army Knife and get another one
This time it'll stay, promised !
It's just too convenient and does a lot of stuff pretty well ...
Including being a great place to plug a variety of boost/OD pedals into.
Ymmv,
susiwong
Btw, good to know original replacement pots are really cheap, easy to cure the common "crackling pots disease".
- KVRAF
- 2331 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Outer Bongolia
Yeah, I think that's what is great about the old TubeMan...a pedal that can act just like a full amp input stage - for slamming fuzz into or a Tube Screamer. And a wah doesn't really work right straight into the computer, either...much better to slam into a fuzz then into the TubeMan on Jazz or Blues setting, so you have as much of the true analog dynamics going as possible before entering the digital domain.susiwong wrote:It's just too convenient and does a lot of stuff pretty well ...
Including being a great place to plug a variety of boost/OD pedals into.![]()
That is good to know! I haven't had much of a problem yet, but I've read that it is a pretty common thing to watch out for.susiwong wrote:Btw, good to know original replacement pots are really cheap, easy to cure the common "crackling pots disease".![]()
