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eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:45 am

jancivil wrote:
eduardo_b wrote:
jancivil wrote:the difference between an event you call 'music' or 'art' or something and it not being that, is that you put a frame around the former.
An alternative approach might be that it's music or art if it doesn't piss you off.

anything's art, if someone wants it to be... what the fvck do I care. That doesn't mean some of it isn't lacking in competence on a craft level according to my frame of criticism.

It's a philosophical statement in a thread which is that by definition, and not intended for literalists.
That's me, "framing" the discussion.

I was being silly. There's a lot of music not in the western tradition that might be considered noise to ears unused to it. I have a take it or leave it attitude -- turn it off if you don't like it, turn it up if you do. Or something like that.

Cheers.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:36 am

I knew you were Ed [can I call you Eddie?

], that's meant for the 'what about a picture with no literal frame' response, which seems to be reading a different thread than I saw over all these pages.

If Rolling Stone journalists can be music critics with a basis only in journalism, I'm not that likely to keep my mouth shut forever about what in my frame is *some crap*. It can be somebody's most precious artifact in their life and I'll do it. Doesn't mean much either way to the universe.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:43 pm

jancivil wrote:Doesn't mean much either way to the universe.

Pretty true for much of what gets people's knickers in knots around here.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:30 pm

jancivil wrote:
robojam wrote:So what do you call a frameless poster of a famous piece of 'art'?

Not quite sure why we need all these definitive statements.
Take things literal much?

Not as much as you I guess when you don't see an extension to the analogy to show it has flaws.

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:33 pm

I own page 30!

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:34 pm

Ogg Vorbis wrote:I own page 30!

Whoops...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:53 pm

vurt wrote:
hibidy wrote:
vurt wrote:noise is merely a different kind of harmony
Especially the way you do it (of course I'm being serious)
aw shucks

it shouldve been in quotes though, but i couldnt remember where i read it. i am looking though

it was marcus boon in "the eternal drone: good vibrations, ancient to future"
from under-currents the hidden wiring of modern music: a collections of articles from wire magazine.

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:25 pm

vurt wrote:
vurt wrote:
hibidy wrote:
vurt wrote:noise is merely a different kind of harmony
Especially the way you do it (of course I'm being serious)
aw shucks

it shouldve been in quotes though, but i couldnt remember where i read it. i am looking though
it was marcus boon in "the eternal drone: good vibrations, ancient to future"
from under-currents the hidden wiring of modern music: a collections of articles from wire magazine.

Now, page 30!

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:25 pm

Ogg Vorbis wrote:
vurt wrote:
vurt wrote:
hibidy wrote:
vurt wrote:noise is merely a different kind of harmony

A previous thread failed to define "harmony." So maybe that's not the best path to pursue...How about "music is what you SAY it is...like truth."

Doug1978-OLD · Post by **Doug1978-OLD** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:41 pm

Music is when i fart.
Noise is when i follow through.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:05 am

Another stink bomb!

Doug1978-OLD · Post by **Doug1978-OLD** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:20 am

(sorry... taxi-iiiii!)

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:52 am

Ogg Vorbis wrote: A previous thread failed to define "harmony." So maybe that's not the best path to pursue...How about "music is what you SAY it is...like truth."

harmony already has a definition, i dont need a threads failure or success for me to know what it is.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:36 pm

hibidy wrote:Another stink bomb! :hihi:

Careful what you say around skunks. By one way of looking at things, the commonality between "music" and "noise" is "i". The difference between "music" and "noise" is therefore "musc" and "nose".

Not that I would ever, of course, except in self-defense.

Ogg Vorbis · Post by **Ogg Vorbis** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:12 pm

vurt wrote:
Ogg Vorbis wrote: A previous thread failed to define "harmony." So maybe that's not the best path to pursue...How about "music is what you SAY it is...like truth."
harmony already has a definition, i dont need a threads failure or success for me to know what it is.

What is it, big guy?

What is the difference between music and noise? [years-dead slappyfight revived]