Tension and Release

[Km7]

iii can have dominant or tonic function depending on the context, I already explained that in the link (parallel and contra-parallel chords). So, it can be Dp or Tg (Tkp). Here, in my country, it is often labelled as TIII or DIII depending on the function, or TDIII (also M), if the function is unclear (I-iii-V-I = T-TDIII-D-T). Similarly, vi can have tonic and subdominant function. So I personally wouldn't be quick to dismiss something before getting to know it better. I think that the real functional theory (which is what I am currently talking about) is more useful than the simple throwing of Roman numerals, which has nothing to do with it.

[daz.diamond]

just to throw another pov in for fun ... tension can also be created by (e.g.) a mix that is all bottom and top, with no mid - think double bass + hi-hat and the release can come when the mid gets re-introduced through whatever other instruments make up the track. Its not uncommon in dance music to do this ... in a "drop" section, or a build-up of some kind ...

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[jancivil]

iii can have dominant or tonic function depending on the context, I already explained that in the link ... I think that the real functional theory (which is what I am currently talking about) is more useful than the simple throwing of Roman numerals, which has nothing to do with it.

You can explain it or dwell on it as long as it gets you off, it doesn't make it any more useful to others. It's attractive to you, you enjoy it... you say you're not inflicting it but you kinda are. I don't see it helping any other person understand the basic concepts it is supposed to analyze (which is something to do after the fact of how something works), but actually possibly muddying the waters for someone new to the Concepts Of Harmony.

Function, and you might heed someone on this, is down TO CONTEXT. iii isn't anything until it has a relation with another phenomena. iii to what other numeral gives you 'a dominant function'? I know what a dominant function in harmony is, a minor triad does not provide it without some definite caveat. Does that, in this theory, mean 'a rising fourth root movement'? That we can glean with no help from an inessential label.

I hate to have to tell you this, but once something assumes *tonic* function, it's no longer for instance 'iii', it's i.
So, 'iii can be a tonic function' is not sensible.

[Km7]

Please, speak only for yourself and not for others - a rather tasteless effort to add some weight to your opinion. You are free to interpret my words and actions as you wish, but as a feedback I can tell you that you have misunderstood me (once again), as the remaining part of your response confirms. I explained some of the basics of the real functional theory, since it is related to what people asked. Whether you like the approach or not, it is your own personal taste and problem and I respect it as such, but it doesn't mean I shouldn't explain what I explain, so don't try to impose it as all-valid for others.

Function, and you might heed someone on this, is down TO CONTEXT. iii isn't anything until it has a relation with another phenomena. iii to what other numeral gives you 'a dominant function'? I know what a dominant function in harmony is, a minor triad does not provide it without some definite caveat. Does that, in this theory, mean 'a rising fourth root movement'? That we can glean with no help from an inessential label.

Well, good morning! This is really what it is all about - functions aren't fixed and depend on the context. I cleaned up this fog with my previous post, don't you see? "iii can have tonic or dominant function depending on the context". Perhaps, you are more focused on the idea of arguing for the sake of arguing instead of reading and understanding what I say. So should I invest time and efforts in explaining something that is going to be overlooked or dismissed right after posting it? I already said why d is d which stands for pseudo-dominant.

But yeah, people have the right and freedom to keep their ignorance.