Amplitube next models? What will they be?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

What about a version where you have a fixed routing of Stomp -> Amp -> Cab -> DFx, each page with a bypass, with no stereo and other candy. Maybe a tuner.
But, would that lower the CPU?

Oh, sorry I hadn't thought of this with AT2... even though a version that loaded only what you needed at the expense of losing instant preset switching (and auditioning instantly in the Preset Browser would need to be sacrificed in AT3) would lower RAM usage at least, in this case there MAY be a significant gain in performance using X-Gear so you may be experiencing something of an anomaly that might be fixed by something you wouldn't expect (since X-Gear would normally ADD resource usage, you'd think). Give that a whirl if you'd like and if it still chokes your iMac, give support a holler.

[redshift factor]

I'd just like to point out how great it is that ampsims routinely dominate the effects discussion on KvR and other audio forums.
As someone who lived through that dark era we called "the '90s", this brings me great joy. Death to "DJs" and boy bands!

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

...says the man who wants an ADA MP-1 modeled. I tease, I tease.

[redshift factor]

...says the man who wants an ADA MP-1 modeled. I tease, I tease.

Hey, that was a staple of the '80s, which was the apex of western culture.
It was all downhill from there. But thanks to AmpliTube, we are experiencing a small Renaissance!

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

True, and it lived on into the 90s but seriously I have also asked for this one. I miss it!

[redshift factor]

I think the MP-1 is most associated with many of the shred gods of the '80s, like Paul Gilbert and George Lynch. If you want to be rockin' like Dokken, you need an MP-1!

[DrApostropheX]

I would like to see Amplitube add an Alesis MidiVerb 4 model in the next release. Or possibly a Talk Box.


That is all.

[Agreed]

I think the MP-1 is most associated with many of the shred gods of the '80s, like Paul Gilbert and George Lynch. If you want to be rockin' like Dokken, you need an MP-1!

On that note, if they DO add the MP-1 (and I hope they do), there needs to be a preset that recalls that phrase. "Rockken The Chains" preset name, or something equally silly and reminiscent

[zerocrossing]

Amplitube 2 demo - 70%

This sounds very wrong. I have it running on a 6 year old laptop and it doesn't use near 70% even on complex patches. I think the most complex dual path set ups come in more around 30%. It is one of the most taxing amp sim packages, but you can configure it to use less in a kind of "draft" mode if needed and then crank up the settings when you render your track.

Yep, very wrong. Be aware that my stuff is 9 years old. I didn't mess around with quality settings. Just tried the latest Revalver beta, it uses 30% on the same route, and 50% on complex patches.

9 years old!? Well, my friend. It is probably time to upgrade regardless of the issue you're having. I upgraded to 3 on my 5 year old laptop (core duo 2 ghz with 2g o' ram)... and it works, but since that's a machine that I only use for live stuff, I only use v2 as the sound is still great and I save some CPU cycles and the audience does not notice.

[metalifuxx]

Bad Cat amps are rare to find in stores and you wont find them in your typical Guitar Center. Me and my friend drove 80 miles up state so he could demo a new old stock Black Cat model, and then bought it. The clerk in this small town guitar store in Midland,MI said it sat in the store for a few years, hardly even demoed or played on, basically untouched in pristine condition. He said most people had not heard of Bad Cat amps, and the price probably scared people too. They are very high quality boutique hand crafted amps, which can get a chimey vintage Vox/Fender sound all the way to a more modern higher gain sound similar to a cranked Marshall or Matchless. Basically they are a different flavor of Matchless amps, sharing the same class A point to point wired design and have the Matchless style 5 way tone knob, or you can use the channel that has the Vox style Bass/Treble knob control and tone cutting eq knob, with similar tone control and sound to a Vox. Basically these are Matchless amps with a different flavor and control. My friend has the beast of a 2x12 combo that is a real weighty and heavy cab, seems to be solidly built with top quality wood, not particle plywood board. They have wattage control for half or full power, and my friend uses it only on half power barely going half way up, because it is so damn loud. They really cut through nice in a jam session with a drummer, bassist and another guitar player.

Most major artists you see using them, order them direct and custom right from Bad Cat. If a store carries them, they usually only have 1 or 2. We were only able to find one old used Bad Cat for sale to try and demo in the Detroit area.

My friend has gone through many good amps and said he has finally found the ultimate versatile amp he is completely happy with. He wanted a vintage Vox for a while and was determined to buy one as his next amp, but the Bad Cat does that and then some. He plays everything from early clean jazz, to Beatles rock, Brian Setzer rockabilly, to 70's Aerosmith/Eagles/Queen, to heavier metal stuff. I would trade my Soldano head and cab for one of these Bad Cats if I could. They are a little more expensive than a used SLO though.

So if IK could model one of these or a Matchless with all the tone controls, I am sure it would be a lot of people's favorite amp sim model in the AT3 package.

[lateks]

how about stop thinking about what new models are going to be available and come up with ways to help lower the cpu usage.

[redshift factor]

how about stop thinking about what new models are going to be available and come up with ways to help lower the cpu usage.

I got this one.
IK could lower the quality and detail of the modeling so AT3 sounds like one of those lesser ampsims, but saves a few CPU cycles for the guys running vintage PCs.

[Agreed]

No offense intended, but it's not like it sounds bad when you set it "Eco" mode. From what I can tell it's oversampling anyway, it seems to just have more or less depending on the setting. My null tests with the Tubescreamer from AT2 and the Tubescreamer in AT3 show that the old settings have a relationship to the new ones, but I don't know exactly what it is. The more CPU intensive modes do have a teensy bit of a different phase relationship compared to the "Eco" mode, but the sound difference to your ears isn't going to break the track. You can dial in the sound 95% where you want it using the "Eco" setting, then kick it over to the high quality/high CPU mode when you're ready to finalize the mix for the last adjustments (if necessary, if the improved quality changes the sound in some way that isn't just "no aliasing now").

I think given that it's competing on the same playing field as units like the AxeFX Ultra - and I do believe that, by the way, I even convinced bishop666 one time - it's gotta be able to make use of the horsepower that a modern CPU can give it. My computer can run a bunch of instances of AT3. Not bragging, it was expensive to build and I know it's not an option for everyone to make a modern computer. But if you can't, can you at least take advantage of the lower resource utilization options? Do they still kill your CPU to the point that you can't use it? I think AT3's high-quality mode sounds at least as good as ReValver MkIII's mixdown mode, and RVMkIII's mixdown mode kicks it over to 64-bit and enables a lot of oversampling and stuff. Wanna talk about a processor HOG, ReValver MkIII's mixdown mode is way worse... And it's sort of a bad thing, too, because there are really notable differences between its sound in regular and mixdown modes, so you have to go through the process of readjusting things in the track to a greater degree than (in my experience, speaking just for me, obviously) is necessary in AT3.

I know that AT3's resource utilization is pretty high... But I've had some similar numbers from Guitar Rig 4, lower by a few % maybe. I guess that few % multiplies to a much bigger impact on lower-specced systems, and it's not that I don't have sympathy for you, but I don't really feel like AT3 is just flat out wasteful, it's doing important things with all that processor time. Or at least it seems to to me.

[Mudcat007]

This one might seem odd but I would love to have a digital emulation of the solid-state Lab Series L5 amp, including it's semi-parametric mid-range EQ, multifilter knob and bright switch. This was a GREAT sounding clean amp and the tone stack along with the multifilter & bright switch made for some great tonal variety.

[zerocrossing]

I think given that it's competing on the same playing field as units like the AxeFX Ultra - and I do believe that, by the way, I even convinced bishop666 one time - it's gotta be able to make use of the horsepower that a modern CPU can give it.

It's true. I did fine with a laptop... until I started using Amplitube 2 and I started to run out of CPU... so I upgraded to a newer desktop. It's the price of progress. If you don't want to upgrade your PC then I recommend going with a used Vox Tonelab SE instead.