More about this jazz piano technique?

[neueliteratur]

One of the things I like to hear on the piano in jazz is when the pianist adds exponential chords.

(Don't worry, it's a word I made up, because when I hear this, I get reminded of something growing exponentially. I bet not many people agree with the sentiment. lol)

Example) at 4:23~25, there is a succession of chords that sounds "modern".

I'd like to know if this technique(?) has any name,

and what is happening theory-wise. Basically, what should I do if I want to do this on the piano?

Cheers

[Ogg Vorbis]

One of the things I like to hear on the piano in jazz is when the pianist adds exponential chords.
85B8[/url] at 4:23~25, there is a succession of chords that sounds "modern".

I'd like to know if this technique(?) has any name,

Cheers

Here's what my ears heard at 4:23 to :25: Chromatically ascending harmony in the left hand. The chromaticism seems to be functional, in that it happens outside of the "normal" changes of the tune, but it lands back in the tonality.

If I were to try to give this a name, I'd call it planing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_planing although I am not sure if jazz musicians use that term.

[codevyper]

Here's an even more pronounced example where the stock chord progression of the song is forsaken for alternates and chromaticism.



Between 1:48 - 3:58, but it helps to listen from the start so you at least know how the song is supposed to go because once these guys go out, they don't come back until the last 4 bars of the solo. BTW, this guy on keyboards,Steve Weingart, is perhaps one of the most impressive fusion jazz players I've ever seen next to his predecessor in this band, Jay Oliver, and of course Chick Corea and George Duke.

If I sit down long enough and figure this solo out, I can explain it theoretically, but I'd like to get to a point in my life where this type of playing and chord substitution feels natural to me. It's thinking like this "on the fly" that blows me away!

[jancivil]

people call that planing. it's same-spaced chords that rise chromatically.


the thing that strikes you as modern, which he does a lot here in a myriad of ways, is this: these are {mixed} quartal voicings.

EG: Eb A D, E A# D#, F B E.

A whole lot of what he's doing can be related to George Russell: Lydian Chromatic Concept.








these are some motherfuckers here, so thanks for the link.

[izonin]

the old bebop approach of moving chords chromatically. Joe Pass did it with dominants, Brad does it with a "modern" chord.

[neueliteratur]

Hello forum,



Can you see the ascending thing he does from 2:39 to 2:40?

It sounds cool, like he's modulating or something...

Do you know what he is doing there? What kind of approach that is?

[Ogg Vorbis]

I played through the whole video and played just the part you're talking about a few times. I didn't hear or see anything terribly unusual...although he is altering the scales a bit according to the different changes.

Perhaps someone else can detect if something "special" is going on, but I couldn't.

BM is a wonderful soloist to listen to though! I am amazed at how he develops an idea and builds something. It's not just a series of licks, seemingly.

[psenior]

I had to download the video and slow it down to 1/4 speed to see what keys he was hitting. To me, it looks like he plays C Eb F Ab A Bb for that interesting sounding ascending musical phrase.

These notes are all from the Bb bebop dominant scale. They also contain all the notes for F7, plus the surrounding notes of the third note of the F7 chord (b3 and 4). I don't know what key he's in, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was F or Bb.

[neueliteratur]

I had to download the video and slow it down to 1/4 speed to see what keys he was hitting. To me, it looks like he plays C Eb F Ab A Bb for that interesting sounding ascending musical phrase.

These notes are all from the Bb bebop dominant scale. They also contain all the notes for F7, plus the surrounding notes of the third note of the F7 chord (b3 and 4). I don't know what key he's in, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was F or Bb.

Thank you.

[subaqueous]

Rad article and info here guys! Will definitely play with this soon.