The Roland V-Synth: Why so underappreciated?

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Back in 2004 I picked up one of these beasts for the first time. I absolutely loved it, but I didn't know enough about synthesis back then to really use it properly, so I returned it. Last week, I decided to buy one on a whim and nabbed a V-Synth v2 (not the GT or rack, the keyboard w/ OS 2 on it) for $676. Six-hundred and seventy-six dollars! That's less than what a Korg X-50 goes for, not much more than an Evolver, and about the same price as some high-end MIDI keyboards.

I had really forgotten how powerful the V-Synth is. While it doesn't have the most warm, accurate analog sounds, it's really in a league of its own. How many synths out there in the hardware realm let you take an audio sample (recorded via line-in, mic or USB), run it through an amp modeler parallel to a supersaw going through a sideband filter, then ring-modulate the sum and send all THAT through 3 effects units?! This thing has loop slicing and tempo-synced playback functionality, massive arpeggiation (which can be used to create step sequences), an amazing onboard sample-editor, and probably one of the best if not THE best pitch engines I've heard. I recorded in some vocals from my wife and pitched them down about 7 semitones. Rather than sounding like some ogre, it sounded 100% natural, like a much older, deeper-voiced woman was singing.

This is all to say nothing of the control. The V-Synth has gotta be one of the most expressive, playable synths around. Polyphonic aftertouch, two light-beam controls, an X/Y 360 controller, a veritable arsenal of hard-assigned knobs and 2 assignable ones per patch, plus the modwheel and pitch encoder. All this for less than $700 (admittedly, the average eBay price for a previous-generation V-Synth is more like $1k, but you usually get at least one expansion card.) I'm seriously blown away. While I haven't explored the entire preset bank yet, so many of the sounds are not just usable, but extremely unique, even compared with the heavyweight champion of the software world Omnisphere.

Why doesn't this synth get any love? I almost never hear anyone talking about it anywhere. Is it really because it doesn't sound that "analog"?

Edit: for fun, a video of me unboxing this thing :P

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I agree whole-heartedly here. All the v-synths I've played around with were just beyond good.

Couldn't tell you why they don't get the press they deserve. Then again, I just picked up an Alesis QS6.2 synth for $205 off ebay in minty condition that sounds bloody fantastic (just as good as most workstations currently in production for presets). But no-one knows how good those are either apparently. Who knows...
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Not unappreciated by me. Think I shall sell my Ion and Novation SL MKll and get one of these. Like what you say about expressive, polyphonic aftertouch. Sounds like it is really nice to play. Want something that will last, that has enough depth to be entertaining for a long time.

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zircon wrote:Why doesn't this synth get any love?
Because despite the features it has that you like, I just don't like it, it doesn't "do it' for me feature or sound wise.
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Because it's so awesome and I haven't got one yet... ;-)

-Kim.

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V-Synth was the last innovative synth that Roland has produced in the last say 15-20 years.
Amazing soundshaping capabilities.
Too bad it didnt have sufficient horsepower in terms of polyphony-maybe that broke its neck.
If you activate all modules and choose the highquality waveforms it is about 4 voice polyphonic.
Still it is a real beast when it comes to realtime mangling of samples.
Definetly no oother hardware comes even close.

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zircon wrote:Back in 2004 I picked up one of these beasts for the first time. I absolutely loved it, but I didn't know enough about synthesis back then to really use it properly, so I returned it. Last week, I decided to buy one on a whim and nabbed a V-Synth v2 (not the GT or rack, the keyboard w/ OS 2 on it) for $676. Six-hundred and seventy-six dollars! That's less than what a Korg X-50 goes for, not much more than an Evolver, and about the same price as some high-end MIDI keyboards.
That's a STEAL, zircon! Congrats! :clap:

I think the reason is because that we as players, collectors, audio users/professionals, etc. are just inundated with a variety of technology, in both software, and hardware forms.

A lot of times, we really don't spend the time that we need to gel with any of it! Sad, but true...

The trade-off for having soooooo many choices, I guess!

Anyway: I have the rack version; it cost quite a bit more then your keyboard. It's a truly amazing synth...not that this really means anything, but Jordon Rudess relied (and may still rely) heavily on the V-Synth in his Dream Theater set-up.

You got a GREAT synth, zircon! Enjoy!

-goldenanalog

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fateamenabletochange wrote:Like what you say about expressive, polyphonic aftertouch. Sounds like it is really nice to play.
It may respond to polyphonic aftertouch but the keyboard does not send it so you'll need another keyboard for that. And they're pretty scarce nowadays.

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I got a GT2 about a year ago for about 4k$ and have nothing nice to say about it, except that it takes the dust very well.

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I've written about my V-Synth several times. It is an awesome synth and a great performance controller.

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mbncp wrote:I got a GT2 about a year ago for about 4k$ and have nothing nice to say about it, except that it takes the dust very well.
$4k? I hope that's not USD. I agree that for that price it might not be a good value for money (depending on what you want to do), but at least in the U.S. you can consistently find the original model for ~$1k on eBay, and newer models for <$2k.
You got a GREAT synth, zircon! Enjoy!
Thanks :)
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zircon wrote:$4k? I hope that's not USD.
current EU pricing new is 3000 EUR or so, so could well be.
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whyterabbyt wrote:
zircon wrote:$4k? I hope that's not USD.
current EU pricing new is 3000 EUR or so, so could well be.
This^^^^ is why I don't have a V-synth...

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I can't imagine why anyone would plunk down 4 grand on something without knowing if they actually were going to use it. That's what guitar center is for.
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I've yet to figure out exactly what the V-Synth is....and this coming from a guy who has owned a ton of Roland gear over the past 30 years.

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