Acoustic guitar modeler VST First screenshot

[redshift factor]

This project looked like it was abandoned so I stepped up and made what you hear from the demo on one of the previous pages. But my effort got stalled.

So you've picked up the mantle of dropping the ball?

[clayman256]

There's nothing nice about the sound of a Boss AC-3. If you have any respect for your craft you'll record a real acoustic guitar.

Hope that helps!

It doesn't sound like a true acoustic of course, but I don't have the money to buy a mic interface, a good mic, then a good acoustic.
A lot of BOSS pedals sound cheap and synthetic, but the AC-3 is the best sim I ever heard so far. It beats all the VST acoustic sims I heard, until I heard the demos on this topic. They actually sounded really good but then the guy gave up, but hopefully Ken can make something good for us.

[Ken McLaren]

Redshift..haha LOL Yeah I guess so. Actually the demo, here...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/923791/TribeAcousticDemo.mp3
Was built around using specific IR files that were provided by another company, which no longer want to provide this software as a freeware product. As such, I cannot use them. So, the work is done, we just need IR files. I mean the work is done..you can hear the demo.

It sounds more to me like an acoustic with a Piezo pickup, which is still ok, but what we are missing is the hollow boom from the body..

Anyways, I really would like to get back to this, but I am locked into another development right now(Shred 1.5x)..I spent quite a lot of time developing what we have so far.
KM

[clayman256]

I tried to make an IR from my AC-3 but it didn't work.

[Ken McLaren]

It doesn't sound like a true acoustic of course, but I don't have the money to buy a mic interface, a good mic, then a good acoustic.
A lot of BOSS pedals sound cheap and synthetic, but the AC-3 is the best sim I ever heard so far. It beats all the VST acoustic sims I heard, until I heard the demos on this topic. They actually sounded really good but then the guy gave up, but hopefully Ken can make something good for us.

Its those IR files that make the difference, until we can find a suitable replacement we basically have a gigantic eq with reverb..haha
KM

[Hink]

It doesn't sound like a true acoustic of course, but I don't have the money to buy a mic interface, a good mic, then a good acoustic.
A lot of BOSS pedals sound cheap and synthetic, but the AC-3 is the best sim I ever heard so far. It beats all the VST acoustic sims I heard, until I heard the demos on this topic. They actually sounded really good but then the guy gave up, but hopefully Ken can make something good for us.

Its those IR files that make the difference, until we can find a suitable replacement we basically have a gigantic eq with reverb..haha
KM

just an outside observation, it's going to take more than just ir's to make it sound true. It's easy to forget what a complicated beast an acoustic guitar is compared to an electric, subtle things I feed on with the electric (like where along the string I pick, pluck or strum) are not so subtle with the acoustic. As a result the electric guitar lends itself to being more forgiving than the acoustic, the acoustics being less forgiving is precisely what defines the acoustics's character (and the player's for that matter).

The body shape, the body depth, the braces in the body, and the myriad of tones picked up from the neck all combine to give a sweet spot that is constantly changing or completely vanishing. Different tunings on an acoustic create more changes than they do on an electric because of the far more exploited tonal changes from the natural reverberation of the guitar vs the vibration changes resulting from different tunings. We wont even go into what a huge impact environmental and climate changes have on an acoustic compared to an electric.

An electric is far more static (but still not all that static) than the acoustic. It's far more than just a matter of the right ir's, it's about capturing the essence of a very expressive instrument where each instrument has it's own character...and then you have to factor in the changes in playing between players. Attempting to take an electric and turn it into the expressive instrument an acoustic is is a tall order.

I believe it can be done to the extent to fool the listener, but the experienced player will never be satisfied. It's kind of like playing a nice solid top for years and then picking up a decent laminate top, to everyone else the laminate top sounds great but you hear the difference, you hear the dullness.

I just can't imagine getting an electric to respond as an acoustic does to ever so slight changes and then you have to match that response to the constantly changing sound field. If you think tube amp enthusiasts are fussy about the "little" things you aint seen nothin yet compared to the acoustic player or one playing an acoustic.

I suspect it will be the "holy grail" for years to come

[Ken McLaren]

Yeah agreed Hink. I don't think that we'll get it to 'respond' either, which was not part of the effort though. I basically wanted something that would sound like an acoustic, actually an acoustic with Piezo's forst, then from there we can try and move forward. (baby steps)

I too have done a lot of research on this and complex interaction does not nearly describe all the stuff thats going on. So, we didn't actually just through an IR in the mix and say its an acoustic..haha. There is a good deal of pseudo modeling in that vst, that pseudo modeling relied on some IR files. The IR in this case kind of acts like an eq, sort of preparing/repairing the signal a little. Nevertheless, its crucial to this design..
KM

[IsFact]

How about the acoustic simulator of JamUp?

Wanna know your opinion...