Cc#11 Expression Pedals and Cantabile,

[tkmh]

Hi All,
Does anyone have a good solution for using an Expression
Pedal with the Dry/Wet or Gain sliders on Cantabiles' main screen?
As you may well know-these sliders are in DB format not linear 0-127,
so they drop off a cliff at -44db as you get to the bottom of your pedal travel.

Some VST's don't have a good internal CC#11 response profile and I wish
Cantabile could give us some main screen options, like, trading the Dry
slider for a linear Expression slider. OR, giving us option on every slider of
Linear or DB.

Maybe there is a VST Effect out there that someone here knows about, (with good pedal response), I could chain the VST instrument through to get the
desired effect?

I'll send this request on to BradR too. Hopefully he's just really, really ,
really busy and will soon be getting back with Cantabile!!!

ThanksGuys!
tkmh

[TiUser]

There should be curves like velocity curves for CC's... but unfortunately this isn't available yet.

I remember this topic has occured some time back again. There was a hint to a free gain control plugin from "Asseeca" (mgui-gain) but I didn't try that in depth. Maybe you can google that and try if it solves the problem.

[tkmh]

Thanks for your input TI,

Yes a Response curve would be a big help! I looked at Aseeca
and that gain plug wasn't there.

However,I did find something that did work OK. I have the old host
Chainer VST, and I simply put it after the VST Instrument (miroslav Phil-
harmonik. I plugged CC#11 to the master-out fader of Chainer and it was
quite a bit better than the Cantabile faders.

It would still be way better if Cantabile itself had Linear faders with
a Response Curve.

Let's see if Brad gets back to us on this------eventually

[TiUser]

Maybe you can workaround the problem directly sending CC#7 or CC#11 to the plugin - the old midi way?

Asseca mgui seems to be a tool to create helper plugins for midi control and some other puposes.

I haven't found a download for mgui-gain yet but maybe there is something useful to be found here:
http://www.asseca.com/mgui/
http://asseca.com/wiki/MGUI/HomePage

[viberunner]

There was talk of FreeG (Free Gain) from http://www.sonalksis.com

It appears to be off the site, but if you download their download/install manager you can still get it.

[Ashville.Guru]

Hi tkmh,
Here's a workaround that will work (I'm assuming your expression pedal is detected by Cantabile as a midi input device that sends continuous CC messages):

1. Use a free midi curve plugin: either PizMidi's midiCurve or rs-met's FuncShaper. Either plugin has to be placed in a rack of its own.
2. Assign the output of the above rack to one of the 4 Midi Loopback devices (e.g. Output -> Midi Loopback -> Loop Back 1)
3. Now, in Setup -> Midi Assignments, with the 'Learn Mode' enabled, use the expression pedal. The 'Controller' should now detect the Midi CC # on Loopback 1 (and not the expression pedal itself!)
4. In the 'assign to' box, choose the dry/wet/gain slider of the rack of your choice

Once this is done, you can shape the curve in endless ways, until you are utterly satisfied with the expressiveness of your pedal!
Hope this helps.
Cheers,

Guru