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http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/

I'm hoping you can avoid problems like that by buying the phone yourself and just getting a SIM?
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spaceman wrote:http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/

I'm hoping you can avoid problems like that by buying the phone yourself and just getting a SIM?
or just root your phone.

none of those problems exist at that point. it's then completely open.
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blaster78 wrote:
spaceman wrote:http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/

I'm hoping you can avoid problems like that by buying the phone yourself and just getting a SIM?
or just root your phone.

None of those problems exist at that point. It's then completely open.
Are most phone's still ok for that? I've heard some companies like Motorola still do their best to brick rooted phones.

Anyway, if I make the step to Android it will probably be Samsung or HTC.
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spaceman wrote:
blaster78 wrote:
spaceman wrote:http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/

I'm hoping you can avoid problems like that by buying the phone yourself and just getting a SIM?
or just root your phone.

None of those problems exist at that point. It's then completely open.
Are most phone's still ok for that? I've heard some companies like Motorola still do their best to brick rooted phones.

Anyway, if I make the step to Android it will probably be Samsung or HTC.
i'm on a htc desire, which was one of the phones that were a problem to root initially (all sorts of bricking reports on forums and the like) i got my phone on tmobile beacuae i'd been a customer for ages so it was cheap (free harware and a an artifially low monthly fee to keep me as a customer)

i'd previously decided not to root the thing (due mainly to the bricking concerns) but started to get frustrated a) when the phone started to slow down a bit b) when i kept running out of app space and couldn't run app2sd and c) at the length of time it took tmobile to get the froyo update out. so i bit the bullet and rooted it.

no problems, quick and easy. froyo runs great, the rom build i have still incorporates sense ui which i like, i can tether via wifi or bluetooth and i can install apps to sd no worries. i'm still using the same tmobile sim and have had no problems at all. i can always return it to factory as well as i managed to get the tmobile/htc os off a very helpful guy on a forum so i can return it to it's original condition if i need the warranty to kick in for hardware issues (although i know several people who have returned phones with "stock" android on it and had their warranty honoured anyway)

cheers,

steve.
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But I'm guessing you don't have to go through all that when you buy a SIM free phone?
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spaceman wrote:But I'm guessing you don't have to go through all that when you buy a SIM free phone?
you're still reliant on manufacturer, you just cut out carrier. rooted it's entirely in you're control.

i'd still root it, and this way i save £350 on hardware costs.
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blaster78 wrote: i'd still root it, and this way i save £350 on hardware costs.
Well, not really, is it? I mean, you end up paying for the 'subsidized' phone anyway through contract costs. Nothing for free in this world.
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I don't think I'd want to root my phone. Not at all...










...check Australasian use of the word "root". :hihi:

Although "root" can also be used to imply breaking something - such as pulping one's phone with a hammer. Understandable IMO.
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buying expensive boutique gadgets is probably the closest some people get to a good root :p
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kritikon wrote:...check Australasian use of the word "root". :hihi:
I don't think there's an app for that...

Not yet, anyway. :D

Droid will probably change the way you root, anyway. :wheee:
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kritikon wrote:I don't think I'd want to root my phone. Not at all...










...check Australasian use of the word "root". :hihi:

Although "root" can also be used to imply breaking something - such as pulping one's phone with a hammer. Understandable IMO.
Yes, tea was spat. I'd be bricking it if I saw someone rooting their phone.
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spaceman wrote: Anyway, if I make the step to Android it will probably be Samsung or HTC.
do NOT buy HTC, seriously, dont....
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Kriminal wrote:
spaceman wrote: Anyway, if I make the step to Android it will probably be Samsung or HTC.
do NOT buy HTC, seriously, dont....
aye sir!
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It's very easy to root and very difficult to brick.

Not sure what's up with the article. Takes about 10 minutes to go from a carrier's crippleware to full-blown android and it doesn't even take technical knowledge. And regarding openness, what is he trying to compare it to? Apple's entirely closed itunes phones that come with a propriety port instead of USB, or WinMo/BB phones that have been behind the curve for years?
Kriminal wrote:
spaceman wrote: Anyway, if I make the step to Android it will probably be Samsung or HTC.
do NOT buy HTC, seriously, dont....
Why? Been making the best phones for years, IMO. The new Galaxy S is shit-hot, however.
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The Chase wrote:Apple's entirely closed itunes phones
Funny how people in the tech sphere tend to use the word 'closed' as if it was something bad. Arguably in Apple's case, 'closed' means 'polished, orchestrated and most value for the consumer with the least amount of hassle and crap to deal with'. That's a good thing (and worth a slight premium) in my book.

But to each their own, I guess. :roll:
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