Thanks for the insight Sean. Some of that was a bit over my head, but it was interesting nonetheless.valhallasound wrote:Fairly similar approach. The separation of the audio signal into real and imaginary components is done with 2 parallel allpass filters in both the analog and digital domains, commonly called a "phase differencing network" or Hilbert network. Scott Wardle wrote a paper in 1998 about how to create such an allpass network through the transformation of an elliptical filter. The math for that paper was over my head, so in 1999 I created a version based around the bilinear transform of an existing analog phase differencing network, from an old issue of Electronotes. This version made it into Csound, and I later ported it to Supercollider and Reaktor. The bilinear transform of an existing analog prototype seems like a more common approach nowadays.afreshcupofjoe wrote: I imagine a similar trick is used to code it up using dsp? Or is it a completely different approach?
The Moog/Bode patent has a complicated circuit for the quadrature oscillator. In the digital domain, quadrature oscillators are way easier - just a ramp oscillator that is waveshaped by sine and cosine (the actual realization is usually optimized beyond this simple description, but same idea).
Digital frequency shifters don't need a squelch circuit. This was an attempt to suppress feedthrough of the quadrature oscillator when there is no input signal, as analog ring modulators of the time had fairly poor performance. A digital ring modulator is a simple multiply - in the code, you just type "*" and you get great performance.
Sean Costello
Bode Frequency Shifter VST
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
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- 1838 posts since 17 Jan, 2006 from Portland, OR
"The Juno 60 was often incorrectly referred to as a synth. It is, in fact, a chorus unit with a synth attached." -PAK
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looks purty!!! me wanna play!!!

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It's also possible to get more subtle effects by frequency shifting little as 0.1 Hz.
Synth chords with one saw OSC + some shifting, delay, LFO adjusting:
MP3
Synth chords with one saw OSC + some shifting, delay, LFO adjusting:
MP3
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
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- 1838 posts since 17 Jan, 2006 from Portland, OR
No offense, but that seems like a steep price for a synthedit effect.
"The Juno 60 was often incorrectly referred to as a synth. It is, in fact, a chorus unit with a synth attached." -PAK
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What's the (price related) difference to an effect made in C++ ?afreshcupofjoe wrote:No offense, but that seems like a steep price for a synthedit effect.
Or what's the difference to these:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2705.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2297.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3903.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3927.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4442.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1819.html
Prize depends also on the effort / dev. time. And this one is not 5 default modules, hooked together on one sunday afternoon
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it sounds terrific, and the price is perfectly ok for such a nice and indeed rare effect (actually i don't even recall any vst plugin that correctly emulates a bode shifter at all)...WOK wrote:What's the (price related) difference to an effect made in C++ ?afreshcupofjoe wrote:No offense, but that seems like a steep price for a synthedit effect.
Or what's the difference to these:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2705.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2297.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3903.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3927.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4442.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1819.html
Prize depends also on the effort / dev. time. And this one is not 5 default modules, hooked together on one sunday afternoon
regards,
brok landers
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gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Great GUI and a sound to kill all alien invasions.
Somebody call Tomita.
*Bookmarked*
Somebody call Tomita.
*Bookmarked*
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
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I would say the same thing about all of those plugins, especially the Crysonic ones, which were originally sold under the promise that they were eventually going to be ported to C++, and I remember a big stink was raised when that didn't happen. There are a lot of other people trying to sell synthedit creations for lots of money. That doesn't change my opinion on the issue.WOK wrote:What's the (price related) difference to an effect made in C++ ?afreshcupofjoe wrote:No offense, but that seems like a steep price for a synthedit effect.
Or what's the difference to these:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2705.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2297.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3903.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3927.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4442.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1819.html
Prize depends also on the effort / dev. time. And this one is not 5 default modules, hooked together on one sunday afternoon
I really don't want to get into this argument again, so forget I said anything. Carry on. It's a nice plugin.
"The Juno 60 was often incorrectly referred to as a synth. It is, in fact, a chorus unit with a synth attached." -PAK
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himalaya wrote:Great GUI and a sound to kill all alien invasions.
Somebody call Tomita.
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*Bookmarked*
(this one is on my short list now...)
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- 3191 posts since 20 Sep, 2004 from Atlanta
Short List got even shorter!
BFS is a blast, WOK!
Thanks for your work on this
BFS is a blast, WOK!
Thanks for your work on this
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- 510 posts since 18 Feb, 2010 from Pittsburgh area, PA, USA
That's $45 stateside, kinda steep for a novelty effect (albiet a really cool one
) The only application i can see (pls dont flame me too bad) is as a DJ effect, and $45 is gonna find a better use.
No offence intended, looks great.
No offence intended, looks great.




