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pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:37 am

Fabfilter Twin 2 because it relies so heavily on it's (excellent) Filter and delay sections to shape the sounds.

Symptohm Melohman

JackD · Post by **JackD** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:49 am

I'm not buying into any of these, except for zerocrossing's mention of Audio Damage's Axon.

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:43 am

TotcProductions wrote:
tomg wrote:
phreaque wrote:Top VSTi's are:
Sylenth1
Synth1
ASynth
FM7
ACE (UHE)
Korg Legacy Edition (digital & analog)
IL Harmless
Not top.. Unique.

Sylenth1 - Superwave, JP8000 Hardware emulation
Synth1 - Nord Lead Hardware emulation
ASynth - 2 oscillators with MS20/MiniMoog/and Curtis Filters Hardware emulation
FM7 - DX7 FM Hardware emulation
ACE (UHE) - Modular synth.. Hardware emulation
Korg Legacy Edition (digital & analog) Hardware emulation.
IL Harmless FM Hardware emulation
Harmless isn't an FM emulation. It's an additive synth.

I should know that..duh.. I bought the damn thing...

Actually a very nice piece.

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:16 am

tomg wrote:Actually a very nice piece.

Agreed.

Stomper · Post by **Stomper** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:21 am

justin3am wrote:Can a unique implementation of a tried and true synthesis method result in a unique synth? I think so but it seems that some disagree. Why is that?

Like Minimonsta and Symptohm... they use synthesis methods that aren't unique but I have always though of them as very innovative and unique because of their modulation sections, melohman morphing and (in the case of symptohm) the filter section.

they might be unique in their sound and the character. but not unique as a synth.
two different things imo.

Stomper.

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:08 am

tomg wrote:

Not top.. Unique.

Sylenth1 - Superwave, JP8000 Hardware emulation
Synth1 - Nord Lead Hardware emulation
ASynth - 2 oscillators with MS20/MiniMoog/and Curtis Filters Hardware emulation
FM7 - DX7 FM Hardware emulation
ACE (UHE) - Modular synth.. Hardware emulation
Korg Legacy Edition (digital & analog) Hardware emulation.
IL Harmless FM Hardware emulation

Indeed mate... I'd add Arturia Moog Modular but I don't own it. I once installed the demo, it was very ground breaking synth. But hard to program.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:28 am

I don't quite get this topic... if by "unique" you mean "you can't get this sound from anywhere else", then really none of the ones mentioned qualify. In terms of workflow/UI/"character", there are a few that come to mind, like Synplant and Axon. But even then, I don't see the point.
Maybe if people would post their reasons, instead of just compiling those tried and true lists we all love so much... that would be interesting.

Okay: Synplant, because where else can you tug at cute little branches to create sounds?
Axon: programming it to some depth never yields the results you intended, which usually makes for pleasant surprises.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:50 am

CHIMERA.

it's a cool one.

bailees7irish · Post by **bailees7irish** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:03 am

tomg wrote:
Urs wrote:
Architeuthis wrote:I wouldn't mention Reaktor, ACE, KarmaFX, or any modular synth. They have a very traditional interface and traditional way of thinking. That's why they don't belong on this list.

Edit: Of course you can make a Reaktor ensemble that is unique... whatever!
And to be honest, ACE doesn't belong on the list because it doesn't have Supersaw, right?
You are getting very defensive lately.

+1

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:40 am

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:14 am

Architeuthis wrote:I wouldn't mention Reaktor, ACE, KarmaFX, or any modular synth. They have a very traditional interface and traditional way of thinking. That's why they don't belong on this list.

Which 'traditional' way of thinking? The one where you want the best harmonics in your sines, or the one where analog synths with integrated circuits are secretly digital?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:30 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Which 'traditional' way of thinking? The one where you want the best harmonics in your sines, or the one where analog synths with integrated circuits are secretly digital?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:32 am

tomg wrote:You are getting very defensive lately.

No, the OP is just known for a set of asinine combination of demands and assumptions that bely any rationale.

Ace is not unique because it's a modular synth.

Indeed, that's not why its unique. But I think it might be unique because its currently the only modular that allows audio signals to be properly patched as anywhere in its signal path. Isnt it?

IMO KarmaFX did it better

Does it actually do that? I think not.

not to mention Arturia's moog modular that's based on hardware from the 1960's.

...And that definitely doesn't do it...

Seems more like you're going solely by the existence of 'virtual' cables or something rather than any attempt to discern genuinely unique features. Pretty much all of the non-emulative modulars (eg Arturia, 2600, XILS3) seem to have unique features of one kind or another.

The OP (in his typical closedminded fashion) rules out 'any modular synth' and yet Tassman has been unique for years in doing modular physical modelling, for example. Reaktor is unique in that it allows structures right down to the DSP level and all the way up to composite ensembles of instruments and effects...

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:46 am

TotcProductions wrote:
dhalfen wrote:
himalaya wrote:I was just about to mention Krishna, but Frank has beat me to it. However, Sakura is not unique at all ( String Studio VS1, hint, hint).
Sakura sure looks prettier, but it's merely the emperor wearing a pink-chiffon gown.
I don't know, I think Sakura's unique in the amount of control it gives to the user.

But it really isn't unique in that respect. Honestly. Its various modules are more limited than String Studio. Look at the Exciter module in Sakura and String Studio, as one example. A huge difference, with String Studio being more complex. And something like String Studio's Termination module does not exist in Sakura at all.

Note: Obviously the number of parameters should never be the judging factor in how the instruments sounds. But that's another story.

Jonathan Shepherd · Post by **Jonathan Shepherd** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:03 am

re_mute wrote:Scanned Synth by Humanoid Sound Systems

amen.

List of Unique VST Synths