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Largo offers 12 Oscillators + 8 Sub Oscs aswell in an instance but it doesn't mean you'd use them all... waste of time really unless your composing Atmos/Huge Mod pads for film/tv etc.
For EDM 3 Oscs is quite sufficient..

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I wanna hear it...audio demos must be imminent as i wouldn't advertise nothing without one..

Rob

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pdxindy wrote: I am just not interested in it cause using an instrument rack in Live, I can drag another instance of a synth, or different synth, layer them, split the keyboard, velocity split, with blending etc in seconds and drag it to the browser - made and saved faster than if it is in a single synth. Plus each layer can have its own effects chain including 3rd party stuff and midi effects including step sequencers or arps...
Exactly. I'm with you. I will never use the extra layers. If I want an entire second set of all the parameters I will load a new instance. But having those extra layers for people who want is cool too.

There's a limit to how many oscillators becomes useful, unless they are different in their rhythm and melodies, which effectively means they become a separate instrument. 3 Osc is generally the most I'll want.

I really like the layout of ElectraX. 3 Osc with mix for two filters. fm from osc 1 to 2 and 2 to 3. I htink this will be a good 'do almost everything' digital synth for fm meets wavetable tones...

And I hope, like gladiator, that all parameters are exposed to the host. One thing I love about gladiator is that even the drop down menus, like oscillator waveform, are exposed, meaning I can select waveforms with a knob in an automap template, as well as arp steps, and everything else on screen.
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himalaya wrote:
zvenx wrote:do these layers respond to different midi channels if so desired?

rsp
Yes! and independent poly/mono modes and pitch wheel, which is great, since you could set up a polyphonic arpeggio or a sequence, and play a mono lead line on top using a pitch wheel which will affect only the lead line. I think that's cool, and a great design for people who want to load a sound and play, rather than faff around with setting up multiple synths and midi channels in a DAW.
I guess I assume that the major DAWs all have some functionality like Live racks. Maybe not? In Live's racks it could hardly be easier. Plus you can switch layers on the fly during performance.

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cryophonik wrote:
MaxSynths wrote:Uh, no one said that it's not a cpu hog, also with all the stuff going :D
This is another good point, IMO ;)
Well, FWIW, they did say:
...remarkable low CPU usage for an instrument as feature-rich as ElectraX.
Whatever that means. :shrug:
I meant no one of us... ;)

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rob_lee wrote:Largo offers 12 Oscillators + 8 Sub Oscs aswell in an instance but it doesn't mean you'd use them all... waste of time really unless your composing Atmos/Huge Mod pads for film/tv etc.
For EDM 3 Oscs is quite sufficient..
But of course ! It goes without saying. But you have these extra oscillators/layers for the more complex sounds - if you wish to create them. So yeah, complex pads, atmospheres, multi-arpeggatied/sequenced sounds, huge prog leads, or any combination of these in one patch. It's about a workflow, some people will like this approach, some will prefer a multi-synth in a DAW, as is evident by some posts in this thread.

But then, the layers is only one aspect of this synth, and there are many cool features that warrant a closer look.
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himalaya wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
himalaya wrote:And to add about the layers, they do come into their own for split-sounds, as xenos mentions, but most specifically for setting up cool arpeggiated sounds, where one layer has the arp on creating a complex rhythm, the other layer could have a pad (non arpeggiated), then the third some other sound, etc. It's just very inspiring to have so much sound under your fingertips - when you desire so. It definitely beats having to load several synths, set up midi channels in order to play one sound live when the inspiration strikes. Obviously, not all layers have to be used, and just one will be enough to create complex/simple/warm/cold/silky/harsh (delete as applicable) sounds. Anyway, enough from me.
I am just not interested in it cause using an instrument rack in Live, I can drag another instance of a synth, or different synth, layer them, split the keyboard, velocity split, with blending etc in seconds and drag it to the browser - made and saved faster than if it is in a single synth. Plus each layer can have its own effects chain including 3rd party stuff and midi effects including step sequencers or arps...

Glad you like it though! :)
Do you mean to say that you are not interested in a synth that offers 12 oscillators ? Don't think 'layers' but think 'potential'.
My point is simply that this sort of potential is already there for ALL my synths because easy layering is part of my host... which is where I think that functionality belongs...

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does ElectraX have variable Unison ?

Mono or polyphonic Unison ?

Polyphonic Unison would be very handy

:D

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Question about the sample oscillator: Is it either vocoder/resynthesis of samples? Or can you load the sample just as a sample? Can it pitch without the length changing (ie. timestretch?) or any kind of granular like functionality?
Just want to bump this question before it gets lost for anyone in the know.

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pdxindy wrote:
himalaya wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
himalaya wrote:And to add about the layers, they do come into their own for split-sounds, as xenos mentions, but most specifically for setting up cool arpeggiated sounds, where one layer has the arp on creating a complex rhythm, the other layer could have a pad (non arpeggiated), then the third some other sound, etc. It's just very inspiring to have so much sound under your fingertips - when you desire so. It definitely beats having to load several synths, set up midi channels in order to play one sound live when the inspiration strikes. Obviously, not all layers have to be used, and just one will be enough to create complex/simple/warm/cold/silky/harsh (delete as applicable) sounds. Anyway, enough from me.
I am just not interested in it cause using an instrument rack in Live, I can drag another instance of a synth, or different synth, layer them, split the keyboard, velocity split, with blending etc in seconds and drag it to the browser - made and saved faster than if it is in a single synth. Plus each layer can have its own effects chain including 3rd party stuff and midi effects including step sequencers or arps...

Glad you like it though! :)
Do you mean to say that you are not interested in a synth that offers 12 oscillators ? Don't think 'layers' but think 'potential'.
My point is simply that this sort of potential is already there for ALL my synths because easy layering is part of my host... which is where I think that functionality belongs...
Taking this line of thought I could say that all you need then is one synth consisting of 1 osc + 1 filter + 1 amp, as you can load multiple instance of such synth in your host and use multiple plugins to mangle each layer.

Then, if you are happy with your host, and up to speed with the way it works, then great. Ultimately, a DAW can be thought of being like a modular synth. So yes, I see what you mean. But I still see synths offering multiple layers as of benefit to musicians who like this approach.
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This looks interesting.
Can't wait to check it out.

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I am for one am glad for the option re: multilayer.. if you don't want to use it, fine...don't... if you do, it is there to be used.
rsp
sound sculptist

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pdxindy wrote:My point is simply that this sort of potential is already there for ALL my synths because easy layering is part of my host... which is where I think that functionality belongs...
Great for you and your host but in Pro Tools which I use, layering is a PITA compared to, for example, Live.
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himalaya wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
himalaya wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
himalaya wrote:And to add about the layers, they do come into their own for split-sounds, as xenos mentions, but most specifically for setting up cool arpeggiated sounds, where one layer has the arp on creating a complex rhythm, the other layer could have a pad (non arpeggiated), then the third some other sound, etc. It's just very inspiring to have so much sound under your fingertips - when you desire so. It definitely beats having to load several synths, set up midi channels in order to play one sound live when the inspiration strikes. Obviously, not all layers have to be used, and just one will be enough to create complex/simple/warm/cold/silky/harsh (delete as applicable) sounds. Anyway, enough from me.
I am just not interested in it cause using an instrument rack in Live, I can drag another instance of a synth, or different synth, layer them, split the keyboard, velocity split, with blending etc in seconds and drag it to the browser - made and saved faster than if it is in a single synth. Plus each layer can have its own effects chain including 3rd party stuff and midi effects including step sequencers or arps...

Glad you like it though! :)
Do you mean to say that you are not interested in a synth that offers 12 oscillators ? Don't think 'layers' but think 'potential'.
My point is simply that this sort of potential is already there for ALL my synths because easy layering is part of my host... which is where I think that functionality belongs...
Taking this line of thought I could say that all you need then is one synth consisting of 1 osc + 1 filter + 1 amp, as you can load multiple instance of such synth in your host and use multiple plugins to mangle each layer.
That is not what I am saying at all... and that is not correct either. You would not get osc sync that way for example... nor any audio rate modulations between osc... no FM... nor the uniqueness that different developers offer.

No, give me a variety of high quality synth engines... with multiple osc's, filters etc etc etc... I just don't need the extra complexity of multi-timbral functionality or separate and complete synth engines as layers at the instrument level because that capability is covered with more power and flexibility in the host.

If the layers don't get in my way or add visual complexity then I don't care at all... other than I may pay a higher cost for the synth due to that feature

Anyway, am interested to hear how one layer sounds. Gladiator had some limitations and never quite grabbed me although it had some sounds I liked. Maybe this one will tickle my ears! ;)

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re_mute wrote:
pdxindy wrote:My point is simply that this sort of potential is already there for ALL my synths because easy layering is part of my host... which is where I think that functionality belongs...
Great for you and your host but in Pro Tools which I use, layering is a PITA compared to, for example, Live.
Get Kore!

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Looks overly complicated for me (don't need that many layers or exotic synthesis techniques that I have no idea what they are about) and also if the cpu usage is low I'm afraid they cut corners in the quality of sound.. Anyway, I will not judge it before hearing but I think this one won't be for me. I like simple things but with the best sound there is (think Fxpansion D-cam or U-He Ace or Xils PolyKB) :) But wish all the for the best for the release! I will definitely demo it and who knows, I might be surprised ..
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